More maps

[andrewducker]

I'm gonna cut these because, y'know, too many maps :->

Most states were actually _very_ close


Here's a map showing the results in more detail.

And here's a cool map showing where the population centers are:

Comments

[lilitufire.livejournal.com]

Have you seen the historical stuff on the BBC website?

That's really interesting - contrasts the electoral college vote vs the percentage vote.

[birdofparadox.livejournal.com]

It's nice to see my near-square of blue on Mississippi.

[stillcarl.livejournal.com]

So, is it high population densities that turn people into Democrats or low population densities that turn them into Republicans?

[drjon.livejournal.com]

I suspect it's related: a derth of social connections rots the social conscience. That, combined with the Politics of Fear means that you poor sods are in the same boat as my country's found itself.

[stillcarl.livejournal.com]

Hee - checked where I live? ;-)

[drjon.livejournal.com]

Heh. Me Mum's a Kiwi.

What's the situation over there like at present? I might need a bolt hole, I keep opening me mouth the way I've been doing...

[stillcarl.livejournal.com]

Well, the prisons are overflowing and under-staffed, so you'll have to have been a really bad boy to end up in one unless you're wanting to become a "Corrections Officer". ;-)

You mean the job situation? Reasonable, I guess. Watch out for the stampede though...

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,11303660%255E1702,00.html

[drjon.livejournal.com]

Hey! Our country voted a Dickhead back in first!

*mutter mutter*

[stillcarl.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but Americans don't make jokes at our expense, so they're allowed to queue. ;-)

[drjon.livejournal.com]

Although I'm tempted to point out that there are many Australians who don't make jokes at the expense of Kiwis (for example, those who are proud to be related to Kiwis), given that the overwhelming majority of Aussies do this thing, I'm just going to plead "fair cop" and dogpaddle off the coast until it's my turn.

To really OT the thread, I've found it odd that I've never knowingly met a Kiwi emmigrant I did not like, and I've never knowingly met a Tasmanian emmigrant I did like - although I've met and liked Tasmanian immigrants, and those who've immigrated and subsequently emmigrated.

It's a shame I can't use "native" in that sentence, isn't it. It'd make things a whole lot clearer - but I'm sure you'll puzzle my meaning out...

[stillcarl.livejournal.com]

but I'm sure you'll puzzle my meaning out...

Yeah. :-( I've never really put my figure on why out histories are quite a bit different, other than we were colonized about 50 years after you and attitudes had progressed a bit further by then.

Hmmm... Okay, your bicentenary was in 1988, so Australia began (so to speak:) in 1788, and NZ in 1840 (with the Treaty of Waitangi). That gap is exactly when Wiliam Wilberforce was active against slavery, he introducing his first bill against it in 1788 (defeated) and the last one in 1833, resulting in the abolition of all slavery in British territories...

http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bio/214.html

So, a major change in British attitudes during that period has to have something to do with it.

[stillcarl.livejournal.com]

Umm - "jump the queue"...

[freemoore.livejournal.com]

well, i reckon that democrats represent a higher evolutionary stage than republicans, so probably the republicans came first. there were fewer people before there were many people, too. the main thing is, living close to lots of others means that you have to consider them as well as yourself much more often than if you're geographically isolated. i'm pretty sure that the philosophy 'let's all get along' arises much more readily in a city, where the consequences of not doing so are very present, whereas in the middle of nowhere you might last a lot longer thinking 'i look after myself and fuck anyone who gets in my way'.

i don't mean that the latter position doesn't have its value - it's an indispensable tool when you get down to basic survival, which the reasonably well-off rarely experience - but that in turn means that if you're even *reasonably* well-off you should really have grown the fuck up by now and learned to get along with those who disagree with you and look after those less well-off than yourself.

to round up a long story with a short one, then, high pop. density makes you democrat. in my not very humble opinion.