Re: 6

Date: 2024-02-06 01:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
But I suspect that the removal of cars in the centre of town will speed up the direct routes.

Probably this is the most impactful thing. It is probably the case that clearing space in the city centre will do the most to improve bus flows and in turn make buses a more useful travel option for more people.

That in turn might drive enough extra demand for buses that other point to point or cicular routes become viable.

I think my major two questions are: What percentage of trips are to somewhere that's not in the center-ish of town. And do circular routes save time to get to those places versus straight lines (possibly multiple).


I think you might get interestingly different answers if you looked at actual trips and potential trips. I think there is also a bit of supply creating its own demand. I go to places on the bus that it is easy for me to get to on the bus. If I lived in Linlithgow I wouldn't take a job in Leith. I certainly wouldn't go to a restaurant in Leith. Well, I might now that I can get a train to Haymarket and a tram to Leith. I recall the late and much missed Bart Calendar talking about the permanent impact of trams over buses because people trusted that trams would remain on the same route.

I'm certainly entirely open to the idea that more point-to-point routes that don't go through the city centre will work better for most people.

Both the 36 and the 38 (the circular routes I've used the most) are single decker and half hourly. Which indicates that there's not a huge amount of appetite

And I have to respect the fact that Lothian Buses have more data and more knowledge about bus services in Edinburgh that I do.

I guess we'll see what happens when the combination of the traffic calming measures, impact on bus routes, low emission zone and whatever congestion charging ends up happening work through people's behaviour.

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