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Date: 2020-01-03 12:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
Allow me to present you with a live one- a small tortoishell in our garden this last Summer:

Edited Date: 2020-01-03 12:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2020-01-03 01:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mountainkiss
I am not defending Kier Starmer per se but I am always a bit cross when liberals give so much attention to attacking one another. Conservatives don’t do that, and it’s why they end up not splitting the vote in the end. Until this changes, I don’t think the outcomes are going to change.

Front runners

Date: 2020-01-03 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nojay
Anyone who's likely to be a contender in the forthcoming Labour Party leadership race is going to get a kicking in the press. Kier Starmer has had a lot of slobbering "what a nice man he is" coverage over the past couple of years because he was not Jeremy Corbyn, that baby-eating demon in human skin. Now Corbyn's on the way out the ground is being prepared for his successor to get the same treatment. Expect more and better in the near future.

Re: Front runners

Date: 2020-01-03 02:21 pm (UTC)
mountainkiss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mountainkiss

True and expected, but that’s from a Tory press. I don’t think (possibly wrongly and if I’m wrong then I retract my original comment) that the tweetstream in the link comes from right of centre. That wasn’t the tone I read.

Re: Front runners

Date: 2020-01-03 03:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mountainkiss

I don’t disagree but I often think there is a lack of proportionality.

Re: Front runners

Date: 2020-01-03 05:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
The former DPP running for President of the United States dropped out of the race, and complaints about her prosecutorial record were a large part of the reason.

Re: Front runners

Date: 2020-01-03 05:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
Maybe. But in that case I think the complaints were oversold. I can't say about Starmer.

Re: Front runners

Date: 2020-01-03 06:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
It wasn't a matter of not being able to face questioning. I thought she did pretty well. But nobody can entirely wash off a sufficient barrage of mud. And if you eliminate candidates by this sort of trial by ordeal, you'll be left with some uninspiring milquetoast, or (if you're Republican) some kind of raging attack-dog like Trump. That doesn't seem to me a good way of proceeding.

The problem with the way the US pre-primary system works is that it's based entirely on polling. First, polling is dramatically unreliable. Second, they only allow respondents to choose one candidate. Lots of candidates with plenty of potential support get pushed out because their supporters also like some other good candidate.

Re: Front runners

Date: 2020-01-04 02:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] skington
The Labour Party uses the Alternative Vote for leadership elections, so at least this issue won't apply.

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