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Bitcoin mining produces one new block every ten minutes. (Give or take - the difficulty of mining is adjusted to get it reasonably close to every 10 minutes).

That gives you six new blocks per hour. Or 144 per day.

Looking at the cost of the transaction fees (which go to the miners), there's another 200-odd per day on average.

So miners are getting paid, between all of them, 344 bitcoins per day. Let's round it to 350.

The price of a bitcoin is varying a lot right now, but it's definitely been at least $10,000 a fair bit of the last few days. And that gives us a nice round number.

So that means that three and a half million dollars per day is going to bitcoin miners.

Basic economics would dictate that if people are making a lot of profit at mining then others will move in to the market, spending more until the cost of making bitcoins is similar to the cost they can sell them for.

This means that people are going to use three and a half million dollars of electricity per day to generate bitcoins, in the hope of making a sliver of profit. Or more than that, if they think the value is going to go up.

And this will carry on until the reward next halves, in 2020. At which point those base 144 bitcoins per day will become 72 per day. And if various projects come off the transactions will also be a lot cheaper. Which, between them, will reduce the incentive to mine, and reduce the amount of electricity being used by a lot.

Unless, of course, Bitcoin is worth a lot more by then. In which case the incentive will still be sky high, and it'll take several of the four-yearly halvings to bring it back the electricity back down to the level of a small country, rather than the same amount as Ireland.

If anyone is interested in how Bitcoin actually works, by the way, then I recommend this explanation, from a few years ago.

Date: 2017-11-30 11:56 am (UTC)
pseudomonas: "pseudomonas" in London Underground roundel (Default)
From: [personal profile] pseudomonas
NB that an unknown fraction of the miners will one way or another be using stolen electricity.

Date: 2017-11-30 01:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
I think the basic economics still holds true even if the sources of electricity are stolen or really cheap.

If you can steal electricity you still move in until the losses from stolen electricity are so large that they prompt vigorous and effective regulatory action of some sort.

If you have an opportunity to put yourself next to cheap electricity and perhaps use your server farm as a provider of balancing services (for which you might get paid) then your own micro-economic profile would be different. You'd have cheap electricity. You might be getting paid twice if you are getting paid to mop up over-supply.

Date: 2017-11-30 01:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
I think the overall economics you lay out are probalby right.

There's something in there about Capex costs and whether the server farms could be repurposed in the event of a bitcoin crash.

I don't know if the cost of the servers is an important factor compared to the electricity.

Date: 2017-11-30 03:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aldabra
I assume there is some reason why I can't leave my laptop plugged in at work over Christmas mining bitcoins, and that this reason is so watertight and compelling that it isn't worth the time it would take to find out what it is.

Date: 2017-11-30 04:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aldabra
OK, well, I'm *really glad* we're allocating our declining oil reserves in a well thought out way to maximise the wellbeing of future generations once there's less cheap electricity to hand.

Date: 2017-11-30 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] casimirian
I'm glad people are realizing the true cost of bitcoin mining. It's not free money.
Edited (removed the part that made me seem like a jerk, solidary with you) Date: 2017-11-30 06:47 pm (UTC)

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