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Date: 2012-04-18 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
What I meant, you put FAR better: I envy people who have jobs that they love and are happy spending time on...

I do NOT envy the "so very wealthy". With nothing you *have* to you better hope to have something you *really want* (see aforemetioned people with jobs they love) to do.... or what's the point to life?

At the moment, due to modest lifestyle, paid off mortgage (1-bed flat) and money in my consulting company pot, I don't *have* to do anything much. At least not for, say, a year. It's actually very hard, because we are none of us used to being self-directed, from early childhood we have been trained to either be someone's minion or to claw our way into the ranks of the minion-herders [this being my own particular terminology - hence the name of my original music project :-) ].

Given the time/space/funds/free energy to do what we *want* how many of us still actually have the drive to actually do all that much? It seems like it, when we are cramming our hobbies into small spaces, but it's very different when those restrictions really are off... or so I am finding.

To have something worth doing and to be doing it well, to know I am trying my hardest and that what I am achieving thereby is enough - that's what I need. Damned hard to find....at least for me.
Edited Date: 2012-04-18 01:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-04-18 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com
I don't want any *one* thing (paid or unpaid) to take over my entire life; I want my life to contain a variety of things.

Date: 2012-04-18 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
:-) I wouldn't mind, so long as it was something sustainable. It takes an awful lot of time and practice to get *really good* at something and there is only so much time in life.

(I'm the kind of weirdo can't truly enjoy something unless I know I am good and getting better/trying my damnedest to get better. Well, maybe dancing... cos I know I'll never be much cop at that :-) )

Date: 2012-04-18 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com
I have the attention span of a gnat. So I don't get better at a thing by spending 12 hours/day doing it; I just get bored.

Date: 2012-04-18 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
LOL. Mine's not what it used to be - trying to fix that!

Interesting!

Date: 2012-04-18 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meaningrequired.livejournal.com
One of my favourite fantasy head games is if I didn't have to worry about money/income/eating, what would I do all day?

I'd like to work in the psychiatric outpatients/inpatients here, because they're so woefully understaffed (or at least it looks that way from here). They look like they could do with a bit more of administrative support and to develop a better system of doing things. Although, this is fantasy, so I'm not worrying about the potential Data Protection Act hell, and NHS + bigger systems hell.

After that gets fixed, I'd like to go work as a therapist or dietitian, something involving the mind and body. This I can do in real life, but it requires another undergraduate degree and postgraduate diploma/masters to be able to. Even if I wanted to be a clinical psychologist, I'd have to get on the course (very hard) and complete a 3 to 4 year doctorate which probably would drive me insane. And, I don't really want to work with people at the far end of the psychological disordered/dysfunctional spectrum. I'd much rather work with middle of the road people who are ill, and help them find ways of getting better (without touching them).

I have lots of things I'd like to do, which resemble careers, but I knew from an early age I was going to have to work, so I've spent a lot of my child time focusing on that. I dabble with painting and sewing. Maybe if I was better at them, I'd want to do them more. I also dabble with cooking, but I'm so sick of having to eat 3 times a day and cook/prepare food, even if I was better I'd rather have a special machine to do it for me!

Re: Interesting!

Date: 2012-04-18 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
Work and enjoyment should not be 2 seperate things. Or it is just miserable. I know!

I could see me being a personal trainer/diet advisor. I actually have a perfectly good enough working knowledge, much more than most people (maybe even than some that do it, no, in fact I *know* better than some that do it!) but I could never keep my mouth shut through the bullshit of getting certificates for it. There is such a lot of crap talked/done and so many people with non-science heads who just take things as gospel/follow the latest trends. Kinda depressing. Getting the work probably means networking or doing dubious deals with gyms and all that cr@p that I can't be arsed with and am no good at.

Rehab phyiso would also appeal - but long training and the NHS need way, way more (and to use them more! Injury rehab is dreadfully limited compared to what pro athletes get... and it's SO necessary, people just dont' realise. Think about all those old people with minor falls and knee ops etc etc...) but can't afford them so there's no obvious 'training ground' where you can get better and more experienced whilst learning from others who are better/more experienced.
Edited Date: 2012-04-18 04:36 pm (UTC)

Re: Interesting!

Date: 2012-04-18 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
Work and enjoyment should not be 2 seperate things. Or it is just miserable.

God if I believed that I think I'd just kill myself. Any ability to be pragmatic about my employment prospects depends entirely on my acceptance that, for most people, work and enjoyment are two separate things, and that's okay, it's just how it is.

Re: Interesting!

Date: 2012-04-19 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
maybe so - and if so, this is one reason why I feel that everything is broken. Shouldn't be like that, shouldn't feel like that.

I didn't mean 'fun' - I meant 'enjoyment' in the sense that's closer to 'satisfaction'.

And it was all my own personal opinion/experience. *I* personally don't cope well with work when I don't have that.

Urgh, I am in a bloody strange mood at the moment, probaby best not to mind me too much.

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