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Date: 2012-04-18 02:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nickys
> Scotland's wind expertise is paying off - now selling turbines to the USA.

... if only there was a way to generate energy from drizzle too we'd be able to take over the world... :-)

Date: 2012-04-19 03:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] darkoshi
"2.5K Cinema Camera". What does the 2.5K refer to? Another page says "High resolution 2.5K sensor" and "Supports 2.5K and 1080HD resolution capture in 24, 25, 29.97 and 30 fps."

But 2500 pixels isn't much, and even 2500 x 2500 doesn't sound that impressive. So it must not be pixels. Does the K even stand for kilo, or maybe Kelvin?

Date: 2012-04-19 12:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] darkoshi
Ah, thanks. I guess 2500x2500 pixels isn't considered impressive for an expensive still-shot camera, but it must be for a video camera at that price.

Date: 2012-04-18 11:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chess
Oh great, does that mean I can blame my Aspergers' Syndrome for the way I acquire every available respiritory disease in my environment then?

Date: 2012-04-18 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
Being vulnerable to certain things doesn't necessarily mean you have a weak immune system. I'm very prone to specific varieties of upper-respiratory infections but I otherwise have the constitution of an ox - haven't even had to register with a doctor in years, never mind visit one for anything serious.

Date: 2012-04-18 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com
501 developers>
Also to keep in mind: by contributing to an office-culture of working long hours and having-no-life you are contributing to the disadvantage suffered by those who no option but to have an outside-the-office life (because management tend to feel that "works longer hours" means "is better at job" and that means that people unwilling/unable to work long hours are much less likely to get raises, promotions, or even jobs). Plus by doing the work of three people you are keeping two people out of a job (supposing people would be hired rather than the work going undone).

Date: 2012-04-18 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
see, I *envy* those to whom it is their life (no matter what the job is!)

Date: 2012-04-18 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com
I envy people who are so very wealthy that they needn't concern themselves with looking after their house, raising their children, managing their garden, preparing food...

I envy people who have jobs that they love and are happy spending time on...

I don't envy people who spend their whole lives at work though. I have too many hobbies to want to do that - I want to spend time running, and knitting, and playing at being in the 16th century.

Date: 2012-04-18 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
What I meant, you put FAR better: I envy people who have jobs that they love and are happy spending time on...

I do NOT envy the "so very wealthy". With nothing you *have* to you better hope to have something you *really want* (see aforemetioned people with jobs they love) to do.... or what's the point to life?

At the moment, due to modest lifestyle, paid off mortgage (1-bed flat) and money in my consulting company pot, I don't *have* to do anything much. At least not for, say, a year. It's actually very hard, because we are none of us used to being self-directed, from early childhood we have been trained to either be someone's minion or to claw our way into the ranks of the minion-herders [this being my own particular terminology - hence the name of my original music project :-) ].

Given the time/space/funds/free energy to do what we *want* how many of us still actually have the drive to actually do all that much? It seems like it, when we are cramming our hobbies into small spaces, but it's very different when those restrictions really are off... or so I am finding.

To have something worth doing and to be doing it well, to know I am trying my hardest and that what I am achieving thereby is enough - that's what I need. Damned hard to find....at least for me.
Edited Date: 2012-04-18 01:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-04-18 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com
I don't want any *one* thing (paid or unpaid) to take over my entire life; I want my life to contain a variety of things.

Date: 2012-04-18 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
:-) I wouldn't mind, so long as it was something sustainable. It takes an awful lot of time and practice to get *really good* at something and there is only so much time in life.

(I'm the kind of weirdo can't truly enjoy something unless I know I am good and getting better/trying my damnedest to get better. Well, maybe dancing... cos I know I'll never be much cop at that :-) )

Date: 2012-04-18 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com
I have the attention span of a gnat. So I don't get better at a thing by spending 12 hours/day doing it; I just get bored.

Date: 2012-04-18 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
LOL. Mine's not what it used to be - trying to fix that!

Interesting!

Date: 2012-04-18 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meaningrequired.livejournal.com
One of my favourite fantasy head games is if I didn't have to worry about money/income/eating, what would I do all day?

I'd like to work in the psychiatric outpatients/inpatients here, because they're so woefully understaffed (or at least it looks that way from here). They look like they could do with a bit more of administrative support and to develop a better system of doing things. Although, this is fantasy, so I'm not worrying about the potential Data Protection Act hell, and NHS + bigger systems hell.

After that gets fixed, I'd like to go work as a therapist or dietitian, something involving the mind and body. This I can do in real life, but it requires another undergraduate degree and postgraduate diploma/masters to be able to. Even if I wanted to be a clinical psychologist, I'd have to get on the course (very hard) and complete a 3 to 4 year doctorate which probably would drive me insane. And, I don't really want to work with people at the far end of the psychological disordered/dysfunctional spectrum. I'd much rather work with middle of the road people who are ill, and help them find ways of getting better (without touching them).

I have lots of things I'd like to do, which resemble careers, but I knew from an early age I was going to have to work, so I've spent a lot of my child time focusing on that. I dabble with painting and sewing. Maybe if I was better at them, I'd want to do them more. I also dabble with cooking, but I'm so sick of having to eat 3 times a day and cook/prepare food, even if I was better I'd rather have a special machine to do it for me!

Re: Interesting!

Date: 2012-04-18 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
Work and enjoyment should not be 2 seperate things. Or it is just miserable. I know!

I could see me being a personal trainer/diet advisor. I actually have a perfectly good enough working knowledge, much more than most people (maybe even than some that do it, no, in fact I *know* better than some that do it!) but I could never keep my mouth shut through the bullshit of getting certificates for it. There is such a lot of crap talked/done and so many people with non-science heads who just take things as gospel/follow the latest trends. Kinda depressing. Getting the work probably means networking or doing dubious deals with gyms and all that cr@p that I can't be arsed with and am no good at.

Rehab phyiso would also appeal - but long training and the NHS need way, way more (and to use them more! Injury rehab is dreadfully limited compared to what pro athletes get... and it's SO necessary, people just dont' realise. Think about all those old people with minor falls and knee ops etc etc...) but can't afford them so there's no obvious 'training ground' where you can get better and more experienced whilst learning from others who are better/more experienced.
Edited Date: 2012-04-18 04:36 pm (UTC)

Re: Interesting!

Date: 2012-04-18 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
Work and enjoyment should not be 2 seperate things. Or it is just miserable.

God if I believed that I think I'd just kill myself. Any ability to be pragmatic about my employment prospects depends entirely on my acceptance that, for most people, work and enjoyment are two separate things, and that's okay, it's just how it is.

Re: Interesting!

Date: 2012-04-19 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
maybe so - and if so, this is one reason why I feel that everything is broken. Shouldn't be like that, shouldn't feel like that.

I didn't mean 'fun' - I meant 'enjoyment' in the sense that's closer to 'satisfaction'.

And it was all my own personal opinion/experience. *I* personally don't cope well with work when I don't have that.

Urgh, I am in a bloody strange mood at the moment, probaby best not to mind me too much.

Date: 2012-04-18 01:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] simont
The 501 manifesto reveals an interesting difference of attitude between them and me, in that it lists 'contribute to open source projects' as an aspect of 'allowing your employment to penetrate deeply into your personal life'. I would absolutely disagree: I've always considered myself to be a 'leave on the dot of 5:30' type employee and pushed back against corporate encroachments on my off-time (not just overwork culture but even company social events – I want to be socialising with people I chose, not people HR chose), and yet I'm also a fervent free-software person, and for me the two statements are not contradictory at all.

Partly it's that in my case, it's difficult to argue that my free software activities are some kind of unwholesome overspill from my job, since I was doing them before I even had a job, and when I started applying for jobs one of my major criteria for choosing between them was whether any given job would afford me the time and energy (not to mention freedom from overzealous copyright land-grabs in the contract) to carry on with free-software stuff.

But mostly, I think, there's a fundamental difference of viewpoint in that they're dividing the space of human activity into Software Engineering (work) and Everything Else (personal life). Whereas I divide it into Doing Stuff That Matters To My Employer (work) versus Doing Stuff That Matters To Me (personal life), and if some things in the latter category also happen to be software engineering then that makes them no less me-stuff rather than work-stuff.

Date: 2012-04-18 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
I would guess I spend on average more than twelve hours a day, nearly every day, on my laptop. I write on it, code on it, compose on it, communicate and socialise on it, paint on it, play on it, watch tv on it... there are a few things I enjoy (craft projects, playing instruments, boardgaming) that don't involve a computer, but generally if I'm not actively socialising or doing something deliberate like a dance class or a tabletop RPG, I'm probably sitting on my computer.

Date: 2012-04-19 05:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ckd
Bingo.

Also, I can have a work/life balance without it having to be a stone wall sort of thing; I will stay at the office late to play board games with co-workers, or stay late to finish something and then sleep in the next day.

Date: 2012-04-18 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I second this.

I’m an accountant.

Sometimes I do management accounting and business planning for my employer and sometimes I do it for friends of my lovely wife and sometimes I do it for various clubs I’m involved in.

Sometimes I enjoy it and sometimes I don’t. This doesn’t necessarily depend on whether I’m being paid or volunteering.

Date: 2012-04-18 01:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zz
Wind Turbine Makes 1,000 Liters of Clean Water a Day in the Desert

moisture farming! :)

all we need now is blue milk.

Date: 2012-04-18 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eatsoylentgreen.livejournal.com
I'm calling bullcrap on the moisture turbine.

Date: 2012-04-18 03:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-04-18 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
yeah, I'm with Andy on this - fi the turbine thing is not believable, why? System energy losses? Somebody got some sums for that?

Date: 2012-04-18 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eatsoylentgreen.livejournal.com
well sorry to express my opinion so loudly and boldly, but it just doesn't make sense, it's like those things that are debunked on Snopes.

First, I don't understand it. I'd understand it if it was a condenser. It's not a condenser.

Plus, two things that seem ridiculous to me, that it works regardless of the amount of atmospheric moisture. That doesn't make sense, you can't wring a dry sponge. When they say they turn the air into steam. Air doesn't turn into steam, water does.

They say the dessicant is exothermic. Ok, fine, it'll absorb water without consuming energy, but what endothermic process removes that water?

Plus, this article only links to other articles by the same author. And the company describes the technology in glowing advertising terms, but doesn't actually describe the processes involved.

Maybe there's something about physics I don't know, ok, there's lots of physics I don't know, but I can't find anything believable or verifiable in this article.

Date: 2012-04-18 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
I initially thought it was a condenser powered by a wind turbine - and that I'd be surprised if they could just about manage to wring enough out of the genny to make good on running the condenser.

Mostly, the article still sounds like it could be talking about a condenser - but has been badly written by someone who confuses condensing water out of air with 'steam'?

Okay, going roughly on the diagram (admitting that I have no idea how feasible it looks) A compressor would cool the air (like it does in a fridge or air-con), causing it to not be able to carry so much moisture, so it would start to condense out (it'd produce heat as waste, maybe you could use that for something?) - a process continued in the condenser unit.

Basically I can see it working like a dehumidifier - and those specifically DO pull water out of the air.

The text describes heating the air first - I don't see why you'd do that.... anyone? Getting moisture out of air involves cooling it - unless you are going for slow evaporative collection (a la solar stills) - where of course it still comes out via the eventual cooling of the moist air....

Where I do agree with you is on not being able to pull out moisture that's not there so I doubt their production figures, and I am doubtful that the genny can provide enough oomph to run the show. You could directly belt(or gear)-drive the compressor from the blade axle, bit like an engine driven fridge on a boat [which might be more efficient], but it'd obviously mean it produced less actual electricity....

15mph is possibly a lot of wind to count on - sure you can pick your areas but avg global windspeed over land is not quite that impressive (see http://www.stanford.edu/group/efmh/winds/global_winds.html - looks like global mean of about 10mph at 80m).

Pub-argument ballpark figures: My 620W dehumidifier produces 3-4 litres of water from pretty damp air in about 8 hours. If they DO get 30kW out of the turbine then they could power 48 units of a similar efficiency (or big one unit that might no doubt be more efficent) - let's say 4/l * 48 per 8h = 193.5 litres.

So their unit needs to be at least 5 times as efficient as my (admittedly probably pretty crappy) one that's parked in my very damp hallway in my flat that's at the bottom of a hill practically in a stream. And that's with no power left over, all going to power the condenser, remember.




Edited Date: 2012-04-18 07:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-04-19 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I am not a meterologist but here is a stab at calculating how much air you would need to chill to get a thousand liters of water and how much you’d have to chill it by..

I think you would need to process about 1.7million cubic meters of air to produce a 1,000 litres of water.

The capacity of air to carry water at 40 degrees Centigrade is 49.8 grams per kilogram of water. The desert air is about 5% relative humidity so is carrying about 2.49 grams per kilo.

Air weighs about 1.2 kilograms per cubic meter of air so a meter cubed of air is 0.833 kilos. A cubic meter of air would be carrying about 2.1 grams of water.

I make the dew point for air with this amount of air somewhere about minus 5.

If you drop the temperature to -10 the capacity of air to carry water falls to 1.8 grams per kilo.

For every kilo of water you reduced from 40 C to -10 C you get 0.69 grams of water. For every cubic meter it’s 0.575 grams.

So to get a million grams (or 1000 litres) you need 1,739,000 cubic meters of air chilled from 40C to -10C.

I’m having some difficulty believing the amount of energy I think you need to do this.

Date: 2012-04-19 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Yeah - I don't think I'm much the wiser from reading that because the original article seems too light on detail and everyone is guessing.

Except that it seems an expensive way of doing things.

Something about 30kW is going to cost about £100k. Ish.

That seems an expensive way to produce water.

I can see it working for somewhere like the farming communities of South Australia who might be able to lay their hands on a couple hundred thousand dollars but I think they’d be better of running the turbine for power and using the power for, inter alia, a desalination plant.

If a family living in Africa could rustle up £100k-£200k then they be better off buying a house in East Kilbride, where it rains a lot.

Date: 2012-04-19 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
lol! They'd stand out a bit though.... [I say, as a native of said town]

Date: 2012-04-19 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
They would.

I often remember how visible the exchange students from Kenay and Nigeria were in Aberdeen.

Strangly, especially during the Christmas holidays when most of the UK resident students had gone home.

Date: 2012-04-19 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
I did indeed! And thought I had!

Date: 2012-04-18 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undeadbydawn.livejournal.com
Message to application programmers:

interesting. Given that I don't use windows at home, and have a severely limited set-up at uni, I have very little idea of how this works. On Macs it's quite a lot different. I get to choose on install whether something has a permanent or auto-launch presence. It's generally very obvious if something is auto-launching, and trivial to ask it not to. Updates are largely painless, thanks to the completely free and open Sparkle update mechanism / the App store update mechanism.

I don't care how often a program gets updated. Daily is fine, because it's almost completely painless and often background-automatic. System resets are rarely required - occasionally on initial install, almost never for non-Apple updates.

actually, now I think about it, I stopped using the Vista partition on my laptop because it insisted on 'installing updates' on shutdown, which usually took hours and just made me force power-down.

I'm not attempting an arsey pro-Apple dig here, just interested by the difference. I had assumed Win7 would be better

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