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via someone on Facebook. I really ought to keep better track of where I see stuff on there. But they really don't make it easy for me.

Date: 2012-04-09 10:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pseudomonas
Is it Facebook's software or the userbase that means that all these things are largely made of JPEG artifacts?

Date: 2012-04-10 08:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] buddleia
I will say the number of people using the 'chivalry' argument against feminism seems to be dropping.

Date: 2012-04-09 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skington.livejournal.com
I have the same problem with Facebook: they don't provide URLs that will work for anyone not on Facebook, so I just tend to wait until someone on Twitter posts the same thing, and retweet that. Or cut and paste the URL and say "via Facebook", on the basis that any Facebook friends might be semi-private, and certainly weren't posting this publicly.

Date: 2012-04-12 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 0olong.livejournal.com
Except that these days you can post things publicly on fb, and a lot of people do...

Date: 2012-04-12 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skington.livejournal.com
a) many of my friends on Facebook aren't even on Twitter, and b) I was more specifically talking about links posted via stupid web site Facebook apps. So someone reads a story on the Washington Post, say, and hits the "Share with Facebook" button, so you end up with a link to a Facebook page rather than the actual Washington Post website. (And clicking on the link requires you to add the Washington Post app and/or move to Facebook timeline, neither of which I intend to do.)

Date: 2012-04-10 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reverancepavane.livejournal.com
One of my favourite memories was the young lady who asked me not to open doors for her, as she considered it quite chauvinistic,* and who then barely five minutes later walked into a glass door, having expected me to open it for her. You can't win, break even, or quit the game.

[* I opened doors for everyone, regardless of sex, btw. Years of playing D&D have convinced me that sending an unwitting volunteer through a doorway is really the safest way to check if there is a pit trap on the other side...]

Date: 2012-04-10 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
barely five minutes later walked into a glass door, having expected me to open it for her

Did she thank you for not doing so?

(I mean, it's quite reasonable to suggest that everyone mutually try and avoid sexist habits even if you still have them, even if the door example is complicated because lots of people do open doors for everyone, although I infer from context she may have blamed you for it.)

Date: 2012-04-10 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com
Indeed. Particularly at conventions where the hotel has lots of doors and people are often burdened by laptops, large bags, and bits of gear being gophered around.

Date: 2012-04-10 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likeneontubing.livejournal.com
Totally agree :)

Date: 2012-04-10 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spacelem.livejournal.com
I open doors for everyone, male, female, young, old, whatever. It's not chauvinistic, it's just polite.

About two weeks ago I was heading through a door a few paces behind some guy, who partially opened the door and slipped through it before letting it swing straight back into me. I was not impressed at all. Even a casual shove of the door to keep it open a few seconds longer would have been enough.

The only downside to opening doors is judging when is it appropriate to allow it to close? I feel awkward when I open it for someone who is too far behind and feels the need to speed up so I don't wait too long...

Date: 2012-04-10 09:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] simont
A colleague of mine has noticed that one of our higher-ups will check behind him to see if anyone's coming through the door after him, but will then only hold it for them if they're important.

That's even worse than being completely oblivious!

Date: 2012-04-10 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I quite like that: it suggests that being feminist doesn't mean you have to give up being polite.

Date: 2012-04-10 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] call-waiting.livejournal.com
Plus frickin' one.

Date: 2012-04-10 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dommy-nick.livejournal.com
Can I add that when someone holds the door for you, it is not forbidden to utter the phrase "Thank you." Contrary to what some people seem to think, it is still part of the English language and is not impolite terminology.

It does happen sometimes that you end up with a thoroughly British situation when reaching a door.

"After you."

"No, after you."

Repeat several times.

Dommy_nick

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