Interesting Links for 07-03-2012
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- Ken Clarke defends secret courts. I, of course, think they're an awful idea.
- 6 Things Rich People Need to Stop Saying
- Jews in Scotland may be disenfranchised by a Saturday vote.
Is there a reason why voting has to happen on one day? Give people a week to vote, with daily updates on the ongoing count!
- Kids born later in the year more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD
- Govt. agencies, colleges demand applicants' Facebook passwords. (And they can, frankly, fuck off)
- Dammit, I find myself largely in agreement with esr on Hollywood, piracy and the internet
- A man who informed police when he found child abuse images on his computer has not been allowed to be alone with his daughter for four months.
- How I became Amazon’s pitchman for a 55-gallon drum of personal lubricant on Facebook
- On Writers Block
- I hadn't realised that Gillian Anderson stood on a box for The X-Files
- Either be offensive, or don't be offensive. Being offensive and then pretending you weren't is just dumb.
- Rather than a mansion tax we should be sorting out council tax
- Romney vs Mr Burns - can you tell which quote belongs to which one?
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Date: 2012-03-07 06:27 pm (UTC)Basically, there's a natural tendency for voters to want to "back a winner" or stop the least liked option, if voters are published as you go then that can lead to marginal or third party candidates getting even more squeezed in vote share than they already do, and rewards parties who can mobilise their voters to get out early.
For a yes/no referendum it's less problematic, but still not a great idea-amongst other things it can lead to a depressed turnout if it looks like a foregone conclusion, if "Yes" gets an early lead then some "no" voters may give up and stay home, or vice versa.
It's a known problem in California in Presidential elections, because they declare state by state turnout is significantly lower in CA if there's already a clear winner, and that also depresses the vote for other elections held at the same time, etc. (that's from memory and I'm ten years out of date on the research, but it won't have changed that much).
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Date: 2012-03-07 07:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-03-07 11:14 am (UTC)These guys are already going to university for free while non-athletes have to pay tens of thousands of dollars a year and taking spaces in the student body that could otherwise have gone to people who actually want an education.
If you accept the free ride that student athletes get then it seems reasonable for the university to do everything in it's power to make sure you don't shut down their athletic program because you are too dumb to realize that an alumni giving you a car is a NCAA violation and that if you put up images of you and the car on Facebook you are likely to get caught - should you ever piss off one of your "friends."
(A better solution would be to get rid of sports at the university level, but because sports brings in so much money, that won't happen. Another solution would be to pay the student athletes for playing games since their games bring in millions and millions of dollars for the universities. If they got a check from the school they'd be less tempted to accept cash and gifts from alumni.)
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Date: 2012-03-07 11:19 am (UTC)Because I view this as being equivalent to those.
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Date: 2012-03-07 11:26 am (UTC)I only know of one college where they open the student's mail - Simon's Rock - but that's because about 15 years ago a guy got gun parts sent to him through the mail, used them to build an automatic weapon and then shot a bunch of students.
As to whether they should be able to do so or not - it depends. If the students are told in advance that this is what will happen if they choose that university then they have the right to make that choice.
My brother chose to go to a university where he knew that he would have no privacy in his dorm at all. The door would be open if anyone was in the room and if he got caught having sex with a girl he'd be suspended for a semester and if he got caught having sex with a guy he'd be expelled. I thought he was out of his mind to agree to that, but it was told to him upfront before he chose the school.
I suspect these athletes are being given the same choice and deciding that it's worth it in exchange for $80,000 to $100,000 worth of free tuition/room and board.
If they don't want their facebook monitored like that they always have the option of going to the school as an actual student and paying for their education the way non athletes do.
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Date: 2012-03-07 11:37 am (UTC)They have their own dorms separate from the actual students, they don't have to pay money to be there, they are special classes created for them to ensure they get passing grades even if they can barely read and write, should they have problems with these easy classes they are then given special tutors (that are usually only available to other students for roughly $150 an hour)for free and are, essentially, employees of the university used for fund raising efforts.
Meanwhile to attract them to the schools alumni (who gamble on the games and have a vested interest in seeing the best players possible come to/stay at the school) are legendary for giving them hookers, $100,000 sports cars and all sorts of other shit - that can get the university in a lot of trouble, and the universities have had a real hard problem stopping alumni from doing so, so there needs to be some checks and balances in place.
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Date: 2012-03-07 12:18 pm (UTC)Off the top of my head, reasons why it's a disaster include:
* Decreases security by training people to give out their passwords
* Reduces accountability. "How did that questionable stuff get on your facebook account?" "Well, you can't prove it's me, maybe the coach did it, after all, he has my password."
* Even worse, will be a giant legal clusterfuck if they ever admitted something illegal on facebook. "It wasn't me, it was my coach." "My coach leaked my facebook password and someone ruined my reputation, I'm suing for damages."
* Randomly breaches the privacy of everyone who foolishly friends one of the students. I assume they don't come with warnings "Full name Joe Dobbs (spied upon by UoA, DHS, etc, etc)". May there be legal problems with the coach (in effect) posing as one of their sudents on facebook.
Notice that these are problem with giving up the password. Being required to friend someone in authority is problematic as several of the problems still apply, but avoids the worst ones.
It's like saying "We need to tap your phones to make sure you don't bring the university into disrepute. In order to do so, we need your social security number, birth certificate, and a copy of your passport doctored to show your coach's face instead of your own to make the arrangements with the phone company." Even if you accept the spying is necessary, can you see the potential pitfalls in giving your coach control over your identity like that? I mean, I'm sure universities DO do that sort of thing, but I think they should find a non-stupid way of doing it instead.
(Or, preferably, not at all. And preferably give up the charade of college sports :))
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Date: 2012-03-07 12:24 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-03-07 11:46 am (UTC)If, perhaps, very bad for tv stations.
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Date: 2012-03-07 12:00 pm (UTC)Not convinced by the idea of having updates on the score during the voting but this may be a bit of conservatism on my part.
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Date: 2012-03-07 12:10 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-03-07 12:14 pm (UTC)There can be very few people who genuinely are unable to cast their vote. I tend to think that if people cannot be bothered to do so on polling day then tough. I also doubt that if people are not interested enough to vote on one day then I doubt they would do so on a different day.
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Date: 2012-03-07 12:54 pm (UTC)But the whole "disenfranchising people by holding the vote on a day when they can't get to the poll" thing is a complete and utter straw man: it's possible to vote by post.
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Date: 2012-03-07 11:54 am (UTC)I'm pretty sure there's a very good reason we don't start the count until all voting had happened. There'd be all sorts of chaotic effects as parties and candidates and voters would discover how things were progressing.
In France, there's a total media blackout on elections for the final week (or two) of campaigning, which I imagine is for broadly similar reasons.
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Date: 2012-03-07 12:38 pm (UTC)I suspect the case of proxy voting is complicated. A quick google suggests that if you ask someone to do something for you, and they happen to do it on the Sabbath, but you didn't ask them to or see them doing it, it may be ok. Here, where you don't specifically require them to do it on Saturday, but you know they almost certainly _will_, I don't know for sure. Of course, it's still unfair if you have to use a proxy vote and other people don't -- people who can't find a convenient proxy will still be disenfranchised.
OTOH, maybe they could hold the vote in winter and/or keep the polls open after sunset? :)
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Date: 2012-03-07 12:41 pm (UTC)Re: Jews in Scotland may be disenfranchised by a Saturday vote.
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Date: 2012-03-07 12:57 pm (UTC)But what about some local government elections where the election takes place on a Thursday, but they don't start counting the votes until Friday evening?
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Date: 2012-03-07 03:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-03-07 05:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-03-07 05:51 pm (UTC)But it was worth it.
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