Interesting Links for 03-02-2024
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andrewducker- 1. Labour finally ditches its £28bn green investment promise
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- 2. New Community Movie Update (script is done - Donald Glover is in)
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- 3. 2000AD's 'Rogue Trooper' is being made into an animated movie (made by Duncan Jones)
- (tags:movies 2000AD comics )
- 4. The Forgotten Lessons Of Infectious Disease Control
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- 5. Each New Generation Finds It More Difficult to Surpass the Wealth of Their Parents.
- (tags:economics income generation doom )
- 6. Double yellow lines for two Edinburgh pavement parking ban streets
- (tags:Edinburgh cars )
- 7. A collection of Tory MPs offering "helpful" advice to people in poverty
- (tags:poverty conservatives OhForFucksSake )
- 8. The appendix plays a hidden role in gut health (I don't have one, which may explain a lot...)
- (tags:organs )
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Re: 6
Date: 2024-02-05 07:12 pm (UTC)The question is whether there's enough traffic needed along that circuit, or if there's not much to see along it, and all the exciting stuff is in the town centre.
Re: 6
Date: 2024-02-06 09:58 am (UTC)People making changes from one bus to another probably need to be able to see the bus stop they get the second bus from and the buses need to be so frequent that you don't need to worry about whether you are going to make your connection or not.
What I'm mulling over is a circular bus to join up as many of the little bus nodes as possible so people can avoid the city centre if they aren't going to the middle of town and also as a way of driving passengers to nodes that aren't the city centre so it's worth laying on some more point to point buses that don't go through the middle of town.
Re: 6
Date: 2024-02-06 10:19 am (UTC)If you can get side-to-side of the city faster by taking a circular route then people will definitely take it. But I suspect that the removal of cars in the centre of town will speed up the direct routes.
I think my major two questions are: What percentage of trips are to somewhere that's not in the center-ish of town. And do circular routes save time to get to those places versus straight lines (possibly multiple).
If 50% of trips aren't to the center then circular routes are worth setting up. If only 3% of trips are to sideways destinations, then not so much.
Both the 36 and the 38 (the circular routes I've used the most) are single decker and half hourly. Which indicates that there's not a huge amount of appetite. Although they do lay on more of the 38 first thing, to let workers get from Morningside to Kings Buildings and the ERI (and again at 5pm to let them get home).
(The 38 takes in the ERI, Kings Buildings, Cameron Toll, and Morningside, so has about as much demand as you can ask for on a radial route.)
Re: 6
Date: 2024-02-06 01:29 pm (UTC)Probably this is the most impactful thing. It is probably the case that clearing space in the city centre will do the most to improve bus flows and in turn make buses a more useful travel option for more people.
That in turn might drive enough extra demand for buses that other point to point or cicular routes become viable.
I think you might get interestingly different answers if you looked at actual trips and potential trips. I think there is also a bit of supply creating its own demand. I go to places on the bus that it is easy for me to get to on the bus. If I lived in Linlithgow I wouldn't take a job in Leith. I certainly wouldn't go to a restaurant in Leith. Well, I might now that I can get a train to Haymarket and a tram to Leith. I recall the late and much missed Bart Calendar talking about the permanent impact of trams over buses because people trusted that trams would remain on the same route.
I'm certainly entirely open to the idea that more point-to-point routes that don't go through the city centre will work better for most people.
And I have to respect the fact that Lothian Buses have more data and more knowledge about bus services in Edinburgh that I do.
I guess we'll see what happens when the combination of the traffic calming measures, impact on bus routes, low emission zone and whatever congestion charging ends up happening work through people's behaviour.
Re: 6
Date: 2024-02-06 02:11 pm (UTC)