Date: 2023-05-07 07:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
OK, then it does have nothing to do with voting for monarchy, or with titles being handed out by millionaires to their relatives. Noted.

Date: 2023-05-07 07:19 pm (UTC)
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But not very much. ("It's not really in the purview of Edinburgh council to decide whether York should be happy about the Duke of York.")

Date: 2023-05-07 07:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
Local bodies express their opinions about matters unrelated to their local concerns all the time. They're opinions; like the proverbial *ahem* everybody has one.

Yes, if you permit the Duke of Edinburgh to be referred to by his name of common usage, you're accepting the common usage. Same goes for the Duke of York, even though he's a malign clown, which as far as I know the Duke of Edinburgh is not. And that's true whether you're in York, Edinburgh, or neither.

And that's as it should be. Why? Because the title is a meaningless bauble not of your own making. To object is petulantly petty.

Date: 2023-05-08 01:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
It's still meaningless. The Duke has no power over the city. The crimes of the monarchy would be a reason to disestablish the monarchy, and not to quibble about titles (which would probably remain even if the monarchy were abolished, judging by some other democracies which have done that). It's a petulant approach, reducing a serious problem to a state of pettiness.

I guess what really bothers me about this is that Duke of Edinburgh is the generally accepted way of referring to the man in question, accepted by everybody except the Greens on the Edinburgh city council. (So it's not like somebody declaring themselves Gigapope of York.) To refuse to refer to somebody by their chosen and accepted name, and to do so for nakedly political reasons, is too much like TERFs for me to be comfortable with.

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