Looks like I won't be getting Windows 11 any time soon

[andrewducker]

Microsoft decided to make TPM* mandatory for Windows 11.

My computer, despite being bought in 2016, and having a processor released in 2015, doesn't support this**.

So I guess I'll be stuck on Windows 10 for the forseeable. At least the minimum requirements for Windows 10 were basically the same as for Windows 7***

I guess that by the time Windows 10 goes out of support (October 2025) I'll have had this PC for a decade. But it works well, runs every game I want to play, and it feel very wrong to obsolete it because MS put in a requirement for some technology that they could totally run without if they wanted to.****

Ah well, hopefully something will change in the next 4 years!

*A security technology that verifies that your operating system hasn't been tampered with by hackers.
**Intel i5-6600k on an Asus Z170m-Plus motherboard.
*** 1Ghz processor, 1GB RAM, not that I'd want to run either OS in that little RAM.
****They could even check your motherboard/CPU was recent enough to support it, and insist you turned it on if so.

Comments

[dewline]

I'm finding the continuing march of "progress" is less than ideal in such matters.

Take my complaint about MacOS and Clip Studio Paint as another example...

[danieldwilliam]

My guess is that the TPM tech requirement is driven by NIST 800 171 and CMMC compliance. Lots of things seem to be.

[andrewducker]

I can understand saying that new computers need to support that or ones used in secure facilities. But and awful lot of old computers will either suddenly get a lot less secure or need to be thrown away.

[danieldwilliam]

Yeah... and CMMC applies to Covered Unclassified Information which is close to the UK's Official-Sensitive marking so it is is broader than just secure facilities.

A lot of the security stuff at the moment seems to be about making it *very* easy for larger corporations to tick a very long series of CMMC requirements in one simple, easy to cash, cheque.

[cmcmck]

Google are playing these games too.

Our present Chromebox, an Asus III is just over three years old and they're already claiming no further updates for this model will be available!

The previous one was nearly seven years old before they pulled this.

[andrewducker]

Three years is particularly annoying! At least my desktop will be almost 10 years old before it's phased out!

[symbioid]

While my CPU is capable, now that I've read more about Windows 11, I am really soured on it. I don't care about running Android apps (woopdeedoo). But the lack of tiles and groups is enough to kill any enthusiasm. No amount of window stacking or prettifying will help that.

The TPM though, yeah, that's not cool. On the one hand I get it, but...

They have done so well making WSL/WSL2 work great. They've done a lot of great things, but then this big turd drops, and I'm back to really disliking where MS is going. It seems they can't not be MS.

Which does make me wonder about the heavy Linux FUD about MS, that MS is still embrace/extend/extinguish with open source. I don't think it's like the old days, but I do wonder now if it's Embrace, Extend, Control. *sigh*

[andrewducker]

Linux works fine with TPM (although I believe not all distros support it), so I don't think it's aimed at that.