Date: 2020-07-05 11:48 am (UTC)
calimac: (Default)
From: [personal profile] calimac
The nesting levels of who's complaining about somebody else's complaint has left Labour Party politics an unintelligible morass as far as I can tell.

Buses

Date: 2020-07-05 10:04 pm (UTC)
danieldwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
Basically merging two companies, sacking a few execs and something something redesigning the bus service in a non-specified way.

Is that a fair summary?

Re: Buses

Date: 2020-07-05 11:20 pm (UTC)
errolwi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] errolwi
I assume the key part is redesigning to complement the trams rather than competing, as well as updating routes to reflect current realities. Many cities have done this kind of thing in the last couple of decades. It is possible to muck this sort of exercise up (especially if you don't have good data about current and potential usage), but most often there is a short-term drop in usage (as the new pattern doesn't suit some people) and sustained growth to new higher usage levels (as new users transition on over time).

Re: Buses

Date: 2020-07-06 01:37 pm (UTC)
danieldwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
There are certainly a number of bus routes which compete more or less with the tram. And as and when the tram network is extended there will be some more.

And I guess if you are removing the handful of routes impacted by the tram-bus duplication then it makes sense to rewiew the whole network. Particularly in the light of the likely rapid growth in Edinburgh's population and whatever the impact from coronavirus is.

The main problem that I can see is the capacity issue coming through Princes Street and the roads parallel. Removing some services that the tram handles would help and some more point to point services that don't use Princes Street as the hub for hub and spoke system.

I was a bit underwheamed by the actual content of the announcement which didn't seem to establish much in the way of principles or details for the review. I guess early days and the key message is stand by for big changes.

Date: 2020-07-05 10:54 pm (UTC)
agoodwinsmith: (Default)
From: [personal profile] agoodwinsmith
Why is Canada not in your tags? You have two links featuring Canadian stuff.

Date: 2020-07-07 04:35 am (UTC)
agoodwinsmith: (Default)
From: [personal profile] agoodwinsmith
Ho ho. I was going to rant on you about lumping us in with the US, but we're accustomed to us being overlooked because everyone assumes anything interesting done by us was done by the US. Sorta like the girl genius in the group.

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