Date: 2019-02-05 01:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
I like the idea of Princes Street as an entertainment hub.

Date: 2019-02-05 01:19 pm (UTC)
danieldwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
Warwick Uni have not performed well there.

Date: 2019-02-05 01:42 pm (UTC)
danieldwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
I did note that.

Which suggests to me that the decision wasn't taken by the university.
Edited Date: 2019-02-05 03:07 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-02-05 01:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
Such as that rumour of la belle May setting a general election date for the anniversary of D Day!

Just wtf?

What price Churchill on the posters? Don't they know he's been dead a while? :o/

Date: 2019-02-05 03:09 pm (UTC)
danieldwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
Presumably the Conservative Party manifesto for foreign policy will be to liberate Europe and knock the Ottoman Empire out of the war.

Date: 2019-02-05 04:06 pm (UTC)
cmcmck: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cmcmck
Something along those lines I suspect!

Soft underbellies will probably be mentioned.......

Date: 2019-02-05 01:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] e_d_young
Haven't read the Wired article but I rather like the idea of a dwindling human population. It could be the earth's chance to recover from man-made pollution and the other harm we've caused.

Date: 2019-02-05 01:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] haggis
I thought the stuff in the Wired article was already well known? Wherever people have the ability to control their fertility or family size, the average number of children falls drastically. If it falls below 2 on average, the global population will decline. We are approaching the point of Peak Child (ie the rate of children being born is balanced with the rate of total death rate). The global population will continue to increase after that because life expectancy is increasing but will reach a maximum and then decline.

I also believe this is a really good thing and means that population will decline to a sustainable level for the globe without needing human rights violating policies like China's 1 child policy.

Date: 2019-02-05 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] channelpenguin
assuming we retain enough medtech for effective contraception, and societies continue to give women universal access to it ... neither of which is a given.

Date: 2019-02-05 03:10 pm (UTC)
danieldwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
How are you thinking we might lose the medical technology for effective contraception?

Date: 2019-02-05 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] channelpenguin
any number of doomsday scenarios ... but I suppose they all reduce the human population drastically anyway.

lack of universal access is the more likely threat (see the USA)
Edited Date: 2019-02-05 03:18 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-02-05 06:04 pm (UTC)
haggis: (Default)
From: [personal profile] haggis
Leaving aside the doomsday scenarios (which are not included in the UN models or the models in the Wired article) ...

I do not believe even wannabe theocrats like Pence can substantially roll back the consistent and global demographic changes that are lowering birth rate. They are having some success at reducing access to legal abortion services in the US but since both demand and the technologies exist, abortion will continue to be available, even if it is DIY or illegal or requires a trip abroad/out of state. Abortion pills can be sent by post which is really hard to block. To be brutal, backstreet abortions have a much higher risk of complications that cause infertility or even death - which reduces the birthrate.

Abortion access is being reduced in the US - lots of other jurisdictions are widening it eg Ireland, IoM and several South American countries. Apart from the US, I believe abortion is most restricted in countries where the Catholic Church has a strong influence. That influence is being drastically reduced by the revelations about abuse cover-ups.

The hardcore theocrats want to reduce access to contraception but that will be an even harder sell outside their clique. If it passes, I would foresee a thriving black market and the law being routinely flouted.

Finally, theocrats like Pence are also white supremacists. Their concern is white women breeding and everyone else deported or sterilised. So even if they acquire the power to ban contraception, they are not interested in increasing the global birthrate, just the birthrate in specific locations.

Date: 2019-02-05 07:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elf
Even without medical tech, just information about how fertility actually works will keep pregnancies lower. "Natural family planning" hasn't got the reliability rate of condoms or pills, but it works a whole lot better than the "hope and prayer" method that's used in communities that don't understand biology, or that forbid women to have any control over when they have sex.

Just the basic awareness of "there's usually a 3-5 day per month fertility stretch for women, often located opposite the start of the period on a calendar" is enough to help.

There's reasons that increasing education lowers birth rates, even in impoverished areas that have very little access to modern tech.

Date: 2019-02-05 03:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
"How austerity caused Brexit" is ruthless, and entirely true.

The World Might Actually Run Out of People

Date: 2019-02-05 04:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jack
I mean, hopefully we'll move from growing to declining, but AFAIK we haven't much recent experience with raising birth rate in wealthy countries, I imagine things like "free childcare for everyone" would make a big difference, so it seems premature to say "run out of people" if we haven't even needed to try policies to re-increase birthrate to a sustainable level yet.

Date: 2019-02-06 05:42 am (UTC)
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It's back! Woo hoo!

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