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Date: 2012-07-30 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
Political 'conservatives' as Americans would know them (which I'll quickly identify with such policies as anti-abortion, pro-gun ownership, christian, anti-gay marriage) are pretty rare in the UK. Abortion and guns aren't major issues here, christians are as often left-wing as right, and pretty much all the parties compete against each other to be the most pro-gay.

The Telegraph talks to a constituency that is economically liberal (which in a British sense means free market, low taxes, floating exchange rates and responsible fiscal policy) but not socially conservative in the way that American conservatives would be. It has a strong libertarian streak, a good example of which would be Daniel Hannan, a Conservative Member of the European Parliament, who is probably on the far right of the party on a simple left-right axis, but who in American terms would have far more in common with the Libertarian Party than any Republican, even Tea Party Republicans.

Generally I agree with Andrew. I could see Obama reading it. I could also have seen Reagan reading it, but not Bush jr.

You may find my cut-out-and-keep guide to British newspapers useful: http://philmophlegm.livejournal.com/235261.html?view=1326589#t1326589
It's not entirely serious and mostly plays to popular stereotypes rather than the actual truth. Although I find that stereotypes often have a grain of truth in them. The stereotypical Daily Telegraph reader is a retired army colonel smoking a pipe living somewhere in rural southern England.

Date: 2012-08-01 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
And of course The Times is the newspaper of choice of Great Uncle Bulgaria!

Date: 2012-07-30 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 19-crows.livejournal.com
Thanks for this, and for your guide. I'd heard the Telegraph referred to as the "Torygraph" but realize I don't have a very good idea of what Tory-ness actually entails. But the retired army colonel type seems familiar. (I've added you to my friends, too.)

Date: 2012-07-31 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com
25 years old but still pretty much true.

Date: 2012-08-01 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
That was largely the inspiration for my article. Great stuff.

Date: 2012-08-01 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
Right back at you...

Personally, I think that use of the term 'Tory' to describe members and supporters of the Conservative and Unionist Party is misleading. That party emerged out of a faction within the Tories' traditional opponents, the Whigs. And what is more, the modern Conservatives, especially the modern libertarian right-wing of the party, probably have more in common with the Liberal Party of the 19th century than the Conservative Party of that time.

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