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Date: 2012-05-26 10:28 am (UTC)
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The Secret Meeting that Changed Rap Music and Destroyed a Generation

I can't help but suspect there is a bit of truth in that article despite how over the top it sounds, but then I'm very bitter how the state of music coming from the big labels went downhill during the mid to late-90's in general. Emphasis on the big labels, great music is easy and easier to find these days, at least if you're in to making some type of minor effort, such as using a search engine.
Edited Date: 2012-05-26 10:29 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-05-20 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
That rap thing is the most ridiculous bullshit I've read in a long time.

Date: 2012-05-20 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
Particularly after you've pulled guns on them.

I wonder what kind of drugs you have to take in order to become so paranoid you'd believe this story.

Date: 2012-05-20 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrewhickey.livejournal.com
You mean you've never done that? In the last month alone I engineered a double-dip recession, covered up the invention of the hovercar and made Manchester City win whatever that footballist thing they won was, all as part of a sinister conspiracy which will lead, I predict, in fifteen years' time to the 'accidental' destruction of all banjos in the world except those in my possession, giving me a monopoly on the banjo market.

The claims "the lyrical content of recent hip-hop encourages people, especially young black men, to commit crimes" and "some very rich people have an interest in the continued incarceration and disenfranchisement of a substantial number of people, and for those people to be part of a visible, exploitable, minority" are both supportable positions (the latter far more than the former). That industries work towards the interests of their owners is self-evident. Given that, you can say "the music industry is organised so as to encourage young black men to be imprisoned" *without having to posit a conspiracy at all*. The mere existence of incentives is enough to provide co-ordination without anyone ever having to discuss it with anyone else.

I *don't* think the music industry is causing crime, but if it were, it would be a structural problem with American society as a whole, not something caused by evil bad men getting together and saying "mwah ha ha ha, let's be evil!"

In fact, were I the kind of person to believe in conspiracy theories of that nature, I would believe that the article *itself* was planted by a conspiracy, to get people chasing after a small number of scapegoats rather than taking political action to fix the causes of the problem ;)

Date: 2012-05-20 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
I am, however, willing to believe that the popularity of Justin Bieber is some type of conspiracy.

Date: 2012-05-21 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
*ahem* you were involved in the AV campaign, were you not 

Date: 2012-05-21 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Guns, knives and broken bottles.

In preference order.

Date: 2012-05-21 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I’m so there.

The beer is an added attraction.

Date: 2012-05-20 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artkouros.livejournal.com
yeah - our government made a lot of sweet promises to our aborigines too.

Date: 2012-05-20 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holyoutlaw.livejournal.com
I think "Is this racist?" is funnier than "Is this feminist?"

http://yoisthisracist.com/

(in case you haven't seen it.)

Date: 2012-05-20 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Thanks to reading a link you posted, I have the idea of porn featuring Alain de Botton in my head. So I thought I should reciprocate and share that back.

Date: 2012-05-21 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khbrown.livejournal.com
On the gangster rap thing I think of some lyrics from the time:

getting your mind off some guy's record
he makes his money off fools like you
singing about killing like it ain't no thing but
you do the time when you live it for real
paying his way from your death row cell
you're the last one to see, you got sold out

The story does sound somewhat BS, but only because it was in the open rather than a closed CIA session.

Date: 2012-05-21 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undeadbydawn.livejournal.com
the Ad.ver.sary video is beautiful, and a pointed reminder of why I gave up on the industrial genre.

time for another look

Date: 2012-05-21 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
The article on Australian Aborigines maybe still owning Australia opens up some interesting questions about Aboriginal property law, immigration, citizenship and constitutional law from 1788 until about 1850.

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