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Date: 2012-04-19 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I am not a meterologist but here is a stab at calculating how much air you would need to chill to get a thousand liters of water and how much you’d have to chill it by..

I think you would need to process about 1.7million cubic meters of air to produce a 1,000 litres of water.

The capacity of air to carry water at 40 degrees Centigrade is 49.8 grams per kilogram of water. The desert air is about 5% relative humidity so is carrying about 2.49 grams per kilo.

Air weighs about 1.2 kilograms per cubic meter of air so a meter cubed of air is 0.833 kilos. A cubic meter of air would be carrying about 2.1 grams of water.

I make the dew point for air with this amount of air somewhere about minus 5.

If you drop the temperature to -10 the capacity of air to carry water falls to 1.8 grams per kilo.

For every kilo of water you reduced from 40 C to -10 C you get 0.69 grams of water. For every cubic meter it’s 0.575 grams.

So to get a million grams (or 1000 litres) you need 1,739,000 cubic meters of air chilled from 40C to -10C.

I’m having some difficulty believing the amount of energy I think you need to do this.

Date: 2012-04-19 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Yeah - I don't think I'm much the wiser from reading that because the original article seems too light on detail and everyone is guessing.

Except that it seems an expensive way of doing things.

Something about 30kW is going to cost about £100k. Ish.

That seems an expensive way to produce water.

I can see it working for somewhere like the farming communities of South Australia who might be able to lay their hands on a couple hundred thousand dollars but I think they’d be better of running the turbine for power and using the power for, inter alia, a desalination plant.

If a family living in Africa could rustle up £100k-£200k then they be better off buying a house in East Kilbride, where it rains a lot.

Date: 2012-04-19 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
lol! They'd stand out a bit though.... [I say, as a native of said town]

Date: 2012-04-19 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
They would.

I often remember how visible the exchange students from Kenay and Nigeria were in Aberdeen.

Strangly, especially during the Christmas holidays when most of the UK resident students had gone home.

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