Date: 2012-03-11 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usmu.livejournal.com
Though I agree with the sentiment of the piracy manifesto, I find it to be rather petulant in tone and demands. It sound like: if you don't give me what I want the way I want it now I'm going to steal it. Well that will make them listen.

And some of it seems wishful thinking: product costs are always factored into pricing, bandwith seems the same to me, and laws differ from country to country, so global release / no restrictions might not always be possible. I also have no idea if the pricing structure is viable (production costs of a TV series or a movie). And every movie ever made: good luck with that.

This is exactly the wrong way to go about it. Instead of trying to take the industry hostage, do as I say or else..., they should be going: here's what you do if you want lots of people to give you money.

Date: 2012-03-12 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usmu.livejournal.com
True. But my point is they're saying that if they don't do it, they're forced to steal it. Right in the title of manifesto. Nobody's forced to steal anything. This way tney sound like people who want to have their cake and eat it.

Date: 2012-03-11 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fub.livejournal.com
All of the 'demands' are merely properties of the pirated version. If the industry wants people to pay for content, it has to be at least as good as the pirated version!

Date: 2012-03-11 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undeadbydawn.livejournal.com
precisely so. Piracy has as much to do with convenience as cost. this is why I buy DVDs but never watch them as purchased.

Date: 2012-03-12 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usmu.livejournal.com
And this is my point exactly. If it's a matter of convenience it's just people complaining they don't get what they want when they want it the way they want it.

It's like crossing the street through a red light because there wasn't any traffic anyway. Might be convenient, and we all do it, but that doesn't make it right. Not to mention the fact it occasionally goes wrong.

Date: 2012-03-12 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usmu.livejournal.com
I agree completely. Like I mentioned above I agree with the sentiment of the manifesto. I'd love for companies to make this kind of stuff available online in a productive way. I'm fine with (potential) costumers pointing out what they want. But it's so much better when done the right way. I don't think they have in this case.
Edited Date: 2012-03-12 11:54 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-03-12 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I read his article as saying –

a) piracy is more convenient and unstopable so unless you match the convenience I’m just going to pirate your stuff for free.

b) some of your content is shoddy so I’m not going to pay for it until I’ve seen if it’s any good.

c) for reasons I won’t explain I think your products are too expensive, make them cheaper or I’ll apply a five finger discount.


I guess point a) works until content providers find a way to stop piracy. Other folk will know better than me the liklihood that a technical prevention to piracy will be developed. My guess is pretty slim. Which leaves us with a huge surveilance state and the FBI kicking in doors and shooting people in the head.

I’d be okay with the FBI doing this if, in exchange, they stopped targeting the legtimate businessmen commonly known as drug dealers.

Point a) & c) in combination leads to a bit of the tradegy of the commons type event. If piracy leads to content providers leaving the market then we’re all a little worse off. I’m going to have to think about which content providers stay in the market in the light of Kay’s work on strategy.

b) implies a rather more wholesale change in the relationship between content providers and content consumers.

How do you provide a good or service that is non-excludable and non-rivalous? State provision works. Are there any other models?

I’m a bit concerned about the guy’s understanding of the cost base of the content makers and providers and the lack of consideration of the price elasticity of demand.

I found the entitled tone of his article a little off putting.

Date: 2012-03-13 09:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Rather depends on whether the people who make content want to make a living or not.

I think you’re right about the first bit of the supply chain to drop out being the technical stuff.

Only one way to find out.

More broadly, I’m not so sure I want to return to a world where you can only manufacture high quality, well produced product if you don’t need to make a living at it e.g. are already quite well off.

Date: 2012-03-12 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usmu.livejournal.com
Clarification: when you pirate stuff out of convenience without buying the DVD's.

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