Date: 2011-09-20 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
To be fair, the Palestinians have been punishing the Israelis for daring to want to be a country for 62 years...

Date: 2011-09-20 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Oh good grief, extending the voting age to 16 year olds is the most blatant piece of gerrymandering I've seen in politics in years.

Date: 2011-09-21 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
If it is as part of a general lowering of age restrictions for all sorts of things, then I wouldn't have quite such a hard time with it. But it seems absurd that somebody can have a say in the future of the country, but they can't even go to the cinema and see a movie for adults. Or a drink in the pub. Hell, or even drive a car.

But then the SNP have ever been troubled by arrogance. Their response to the Lib-Dem call for more challenging questions on the question of independance drew from the SNP the official comment that they would take no pointers on how to run a referendum from the Liberal Democrats, following the AV vote fiasco. Which, was about the least mature thing I've heard in politics this week.

Date: 2011-09-21 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spacelem.livejournal.com
How can you understand politics if you haven't had hours long drunken rants in the pub about it?

Date: 2011-09-21 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
Exactly!

I'm not saying some 16 year olds don't have very profound views on politics of course.

Date: 2011-09-20 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eatsoylentgreen.livejournal.com
I heard on public radio an Israeli ambassador say "we don't have water agreements with a country of Palestine..."

so threatening to cut off the water too...

Date: 2011-09-21 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
Damnit I totally posted a link to that review on G+ weeks ago... But yes. Awesome.

Date: 2011-09-21 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strawberryfrog.livejournal.com
If Palestine isn't a country, then what is it, exactly? A Bantustan?

Date: 2011-09-21 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strawberryfrog.livejournal.com
Israeli law or international law? If it's the first but not the second, then it could be a Bantustan.

Date: 2011-09-21 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I recall a very depressing conversation by social media with a guy from the States about the use of blood products from gay men. It basically went like this.

Him: Homosexuality is unclean.

Me: Have you got any evidence for that bold statement?

Him: Gay men are banned from giving blood in your country.

Me: But this is only because people weren’t sure what was going on with HIV/AIDS and panicked and were a bit homophobic. The evidence suggests that blood from gay men who practise safe sex is as clean as any other blood.

Him: If homosexuality wasn’t unclean why would they ban blood from homosexuals?

Me: Because they made a mistake. There’s no evidence that there is any difference in the quality of the blood.

Him: Yes there is. It’s banned and it’s banned because it comes from homosexuals.

Me: So what you are saying is that blood from homosexuals is unclean because homosexuals are unclean because their blood is unclean.

Him: Yes – why do you keep asking me these questions? Are you too stupid to understand logic and science.

It was a trying day. I was tempted to ask him if he was worried he might catch homosexuality but decided discretion was the better part of picking a fight with a homophobe.

Date: 2011-09-21 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pete stevens (from livejournal.com)
The pink news suggests that between 5% and 10% of gay men in London have HIV, with one in three not realising they're infected, and gay men accounting for 80% of HIV infections.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6205.html/

Wikipedia suggests that 6% of men have had a homosexual experience, so 3% of the population are 'men who have sex with men'. Consequently the simple rule 'no blood donations from men who have sex with men' results in a 3% drop in the amount of blood donated but an 80% drop in HIV incidence in the amount of HIV infected blood.

To go all bayesian on you,

P(HIV|gay-man) ~ 10%
P(HIV|not-gay-man) ~ 0.3%

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