Very cool, if true

Does the AB/C1/C2/DE affluence rating in the independance poll also roughly correlate to education levels?

So more educated people are more against independence, while less educated people are for it?

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Looks that way to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRS_social_grade

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That's a somewhat problematic conclusion then for the pro Independence movement to address. If the wealth generators are largely agin it.

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Wealth generators or wealth appropriators?

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Well, I do think the country needs them in order to pay the taxes which pay for all of the lovely socialist things we have in Scotland like free healthcare and education.

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Absolutely.

I'm not convinced that there is a 1 to 1 correlation between income and wealth creation. There is probably a strong correlation.

It was literally Strategy 101 where I learnt there are two parts to making money, creating value and appropriating value and that a person or firm can get rich by being very good at either.

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What does appropriating value entail?

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Getting your hands on the loot.

There's not a clear cut distinction between the two as in most cases you have to have control of some asset or do some work in order to create value or to appropriate it. It's often useful distinction when thinking about corporate strategy.

My rule of thumb is to ask if the person I think is appropriating value wasn't there or did their job badly would the end customer notice.

As an example if you owned a field near a town with no railway and I built a railway to the town and this increased the value of your land you would have appropriated value that you had not created.

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I'm not sure that the polling has been large or frequent enough to draw good conclusions about the support by segment yet. I suspect only the SNP will chose to spend the money doing that research and I think they'll keep that to themselves regardless of the results.

I also note the large numbers of don't knows. Reflecting on my experience of watching the polls for the AV referendum and watching the don't knows gradually and then very quickly harden for a No vote I'd say it was all to play for.

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Presumably a yes to independence vote will need more than 50% yeah?

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50% plus 1 vote.

Not sure what happens if the referendum is multiple option. Perhaps we use AV.

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Wasn't the last referendum set up that it needed 60% in favour of independence, because it was such a huge revolution for the country, that they felt that a yes vote with 50%+1 was going to be very hard to convince the other half of the country to go along with it.

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The rule was that 40% of the total electorate had to vote in favour. Which meant that they needed 80% turnout, and as turnout was 62%, it failed, despite 52% of the people who voted being in favour.

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The devolution referendum in the 70's required 50% plus 1 to vote Yes and for 40% of the electorate to vote Yes also - so a requirement for a high turn out.

I think the official reason was that a big change constitutional required significant backing. I think the real reason had more to do with the Labour Party's concerns about losing UK General Elections.

The devolution referendum in the 90's was a straight 50%+1

We've yet to have a referendum on independence.

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My lot hint at getting rid of people who don't appear to be happy enough. This is so "the beatings will continue until morale improves" in its backwardness it's stunning. But then they also "solved" the problem of a high Dilbert Index by banning Dilbert cartoons in the workplace.

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Nice. So, all the talented people are leaving in droves?

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Just out of interest, does anyone in the Hebrides ever mention a third alternative - independence from Westminster and from Edinburgh, but union with Man, thereby reforming the mediaeval Kingdom of the Isles and Man?

Living in somewhere as beautiful as say South Uist with low taxes sounds really quite attractive. Much more so (at least to me) than it would in a Labour / SNP socialist utopia...

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