Date: 2011-08-08 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerrypolka.livejournal.com
I clicked on the drinking and smoking story hoping for something about how Manischewitz is the best booze of all, but I didn't see anything Jewy about the story at all! I don't understand the tag I'm afraid...

Date: 2011-08-08 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrewhickey.livejournal.com
The study was done on a group of Ashkenazi Jews, to ensure a relatively homogenous genetic background.

Date: 2011-08-08 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerrypolka.livejournal.com
Ah, thank you! I did miss that at the beginning.

Date: 2011-08-08 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
I think the rule should be "Don't make rape jokes unless you are Bob Saget or Sarah Silverman - because they are the only people who are able to do them without making people feel dirty."

Rule #2 should be "Don't make jokes about crack whore magazine unless you are Eric Cartman."

Date: 2011-08-08 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
The comments on that Georgia story are terrifying.

Date: 2011-08-08 12:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nwhyte
I found the African satnav one a bit offensive - as if conflicts happen all over Africa, or only in Africa.

I have actually had the experience of trying to get around a small part of Sudan in a car which had a satnav fitted (though it did not have Sudanese maps installed), and what is actually needed is for the GPS coordinates for Sudanese towns to be plugged into the system; that would make life easier for everyone, especially honest travellers of peaceable intent.

Perhaps it would be funnier if I knew anything about Portal 2.

Date: 2011-08-08 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strawberryfrog.livejournal.com
While "Africa tends to be characterised that way", I have spent a lot of time in Africa, usually in the area of Cape Town. It's a bit like if the first thing that came to mind for people's association for "Europe" was Irish jokes.

Date: 2011-08-08 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com
We have the same problem in agriculture here in the UK, we absolutely depend on the migrant workforce for harvests.

Long gone are the days when students would do picking all summer.

Date: 2011-08-08 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomchris.livejournal.com
The long-lived post is also a bit misleading; they looked only at people over 95. The conclusion they should come to (given how likely people are to die from drinking and smoking overall) is that if drink or cigarettes are going to kill you then they'll probably do so before you're 95. Sounds about right to me.

Date: 2011-08-08 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
You could also say it just supports that Ashkenazi Jews have particularly hardy genes.

The did a study a while back on smoking and lung cancer rates and found that people who lived in coal mining towns in both the US and Scotland had lower lung cancer rates related to smoking - but what that pretty much proved was that generations of mining coal results eventually in offspring with lungs that can handle anything.

Date: 2011-08-08 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khbrown.livejournal.com
Somewhat reminiscent of an Alexi Sayle joke: It isn't what killed your parents but what kills your grandparents that matters. So if he could avoid Cossack pogroms he would be okay.

Date: 2011-08-08 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naath.livejournal.com
Depends on the proportions of smokers and non-smokers that you start with.

If you have a population of 97 smokers and 3 non-smokers and 1 non-smoker (33%) is hit by a bus at the age of 20 and then 64 smokers (about 66%) die of lung cancer you are left with 33 smokers and 2 non-smokers surviving, which is still more smokers than non-smokers even though the death-rate amongst smokers was higher.

I suspect that if 100% of people who would be 95 now if only they had lived had done so then a rather higher proportion of them would be smokers than the proportion of young people today who are smokers.

Date: 2011-08-08 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
As I recall, the death rate is higher at around 60 than at around 75, so there could well be a selection effect.

Date: 2011-08-08 07:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] soon_lee
New Zealand recently implemented a seasonal migrant work scheme for horticulture & viticulture, recognising that we didn't have enough people willing to work there especially during the harvest period.

The scheme seems to be working well: workers (mainly from the Pacific Islands) earn more in the few months of work than the rest of the year combined.

Date: 2011-08-08 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octopoid-horror.livejournal.com
The solution to the problem in Georgia will probably end up being prison labour.

Date: 2011-08-08 08:04 pm (UTC)
mair_in_grenderich: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mair_in_grenderich
I'm trying to find an actual graph for the Jonathan's Card thing, and failing...

Date: 2011-08-08 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] camies.livejournal.com
How about this: that a lot of people who drink regularly do so as part of having a complex and rewarding social and personal life, as a result of which they feel more valued and emotionally involved, which helps them to stay active and possibly live longer.

Date: 2011-08-12 07:44 pm (UTC)

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