Date: 2010-09-14 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princealbert.livejournal.com
AH MUS STRONGLY PROTEST AT THE LIBELLOUS TAGS YOU HAV ATTACHED TO MY GOOD NAME!

POPE!

CATHOLICISM!

HAVE YE NO SHAME MAN.





Sorry couldn't resist.

Date: 2010-09-14 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-clanger.livejournal.com
That Amazon story mystifies me. I've looked up those items on Amazon.co.uk and Amazon.com and the price is just displayed as a money amount - no reference to weight or size. I can't find any preference setting under my account options to display prices in relation to weight. (Most products do have a weight listed, for computing postage rates). And searching Amazon's help didn't get me anywhere. Am I missing something or is El Reg pulling our legs?

Date: 2010-09-14 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Likewise.

I do remember [livejournal.com profile] steer many years ago noticed that Tesco was selling pocket calculators and was helpfully displaying the cost per kg for comparison purposes. (And I verified this in person - I think he got a photo too.)

Date: 2010-09-14 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
It does seem strange. Amazon sold things that are not sold by the ounce long before they sold anything that was. (Do they sell ANYTHING that is measured in weight or length? And do they use ounces when they do?)

But on the other hand, I don't really care, it's mildly funny if it happened, but it's bound to happen sooner or later when someone's "per ounce" code gets into the wrong category.

Ironically, many of us do the same thing in real life: we weigh a big boardgame box in our hands and think "that's not much for 50GB" or "that's a lot for 50GBP". Which partly makes sense, because even if what really makes a game is how much dedicated design and playtesting it got, we like to see a game that's tactilely rich with high production values. But partly doesn't, because a bigger box doesn't necessarily mean better stuff (or even more stuff).

Date: 2010-09-14 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-clanger.livejournal.com
According to Francis Spufford's excellent Red Plenty, a problem of the Soviet Union's command economy - one of many that scuppered the efforts to computerise it that form the subject of the book - was that the notional value of industrial machinery was calculated from its weight. As such, if a factory produced a more efficient, lighter machine to the same pre-set production quota, its payment was cut because it had produced less weight of goods!

Date: 2010-09-14 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Agh! Here we have the problems with metrics. They can certainly indicate _something_ but, unsurprisingly, need to applied along WITH common sense, not instead of it.

(On the other hand, Stalin is notoriously resistant to Hanlon's razor)

Date: 2010-09-14 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com
If you upload products to sell on Amazon, you have to supply a load of information, including the product weight and dimensions of the box. I would guess someone screwed up the website code and the wrong field was displayed for a while.

Date: 2010-09-14 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Yeah, I suppose it's entirely possible, especially if it was for instance some test code that got used by accident. It just seemed less likely for amazon than a website which habitually DID work with fungible products. For instance, would there be a different gross and net weight for shipping and for calculating cost per pound, and would everyone have to enter both? I suppose if I cared I could ask amazon, but it doesn't really matter.

Date: 2010-09-15 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octopoid-horror.livejournal.com
Some boardgames companies (cough Fantasy Flight Games cough) are fairly happy to use the number of pieces/counters in the box as a selling point for games. I bought a game years ago (not from them) that had a big sticker on the front of the box declaring "Over 200 counters!"

Date: 2010-09-15 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Doh. I mean, if the extras are put there to make the game better, then it is a good sign, but now if you can artificially inflate it.

Date: 2010-09-14 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Ironically, vaccines are probably the one medicine which you DO make by taking a little bit of the original harm and then diluting it beyond the point where the original material would remain in the sample[1].

[1] Assuming the pathogen is bred in a test tube.

Date: 2010-09-14 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com
Protest at, about, or against. It's the Americans who skip the preposition! ;)

Though I may be at the protest on Thursday morning.

> My skin is mine, to pierce or tattoo or scar or burn or pearl or implant or otherwise alter as I choose

I can't fault this but I find it pretty gross.

Date: 2010-09-14 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashfae.livejournal.com
Protest at, about, or against. It's the Americans who skip the preposition! ;)

*rolls eyes* This coming from someone whose country uses slogans like "Every little helps"? Little was an adjective rather than a noun, last time I checked!

Date: 2010-09-14 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com
Oh yes I hate that too. I've yet to understand what it means.

(Also, Tesco is not a country. Yet.)

Date: 2010-09-14 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashfae.livejournal.com
You sure? *gryn* But anyhow, that sort of thing is done everywhere out here, it's maddening...going to hospital instead of to the hospital, and such. Yechh.

Date: 2010-09-14 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com
Going to hospital is different. It's like going to school. Hmm. Or would I say 'into hospital'? Aargh you've got me confused now!

Date: 2010-09-14 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashfae.livejournal.com
Yay, I win! Except I think we both lose. Curse you, English language!

Date: 2010-09-14 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
I wonder if the seat is at all comfy. For instance, if there's some sort of harness that supports your torso comfortably, standing up might not be more tiring than sitting down! That could actually be better than sitting down in an increasingly cramped space and pretending you're sitting comfortably.

Whereas, if you need to support your whole weight on your legs to stop the seatbelt cutting you in half, it's obviously awful.

Date: 2010-09-14 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anef.livejournal.com
You know, much as I loathe Ian Paisley and all he stands for, in this case he has a point. And I never thought I would find myself saying or writing that.

Date: 2010-09-15 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octopoid-horror.livejournal.com
A visit to TVT&I will teach you three things: (1) originality is dead, (2) no one misses it, and (3) you’ve just blown six hours.

4] tv tropes contributors LOVE anime. They really, really, really love it.
Edited Date: 2010-09-15 08:51 pm (UTC)

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