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The ability to post your posts to Facebook/Twitter strikes me as useful for a certain segment of people - those that want to use their FB or Twitter as aggregation tools (which is what I do with Twitter - it gets my FB status updates and Delicious links automatically). Not everyone will use this, but it's something people already do manually, so making it part of the site sounds handy.

Posting comments to both places, on the other hand, is something that leaves me baffled. Is there _anyone_ that does this? What's the point of putting a copy of a bit of discussion on a different site? Can anyone explain how this would be useful to them?

Date: 2010-09-01 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sbisson.livejournal.com
I have absolutely no idea why anyone would want to do that. Comments are part of a thread, and out of context they make no sense.

(Bring back strn! And the good old days of CiX!)

Date: 2010-09-01 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woodpijn.livejournal.com
One of my LJ friends has various people's tweets syndicated to his LJ friends page. I can't see the point of that either. The individual tweets are usually portions of a conversation, and you can't see the other side of the conversation.

Date: 2010-09-02 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
Sometimes, but not always.

In cases where people are saying something that's not part of a particular conversation it's useful to sync things across all the social networking sites.

Date: 2010-09-01 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
So I can tell my Facebook friends that I agree with you that I have the biggest dick in the world!

Date: 2010-09-01 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com
I know quite a few people whose tweets appear on Facebook. It's mildly annoying, as I don't know where to reply.

Date: 2010-09-01 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com
yup. And also I generally only want to read one copy of things, so people who post the same things everywhere tend to end up being taken off my default reading at all-but-one. This is unfortunate when they post things to (say) FB that *aren't* copies of their LJ/DW/Twitter.

Date: 2010-09-01 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] call-waiting.livejournal.com
I could certainly see the point if it were mutual: if comments posted to any of the forums were automatically posted to the others, to form a single coherent thread that just happens to be replicated on all the forums.

And the first step in having a mutual arrangement, I suppose, is for at least one of them to do it ;)

Date: 2010-09-02 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizzie-and-ari.livejournal.com
That's exactly what I was going to say - that's what I thought Andy meant by replicating comments. That would be brilliant as if you've cross-posted something, particularly like a debate, it'd be great to have one coherent discussion.

Date: 2010-09-01 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asim.livejournal.com
I have posted extensive comments on io9 that I've reposted to Facebook, but the comment is usually complete within itself, and the post it comes from is, of course, always public. So I can see some good in this, I can see people posting comments that are more awesome knowing it's going to a larger audience.

The core issue I have is that there's no way to turn this off for a journal completely. It means that someone with the auto-repost option can accidentally hint at private information, at a minimum. I think this is a deal-breaker, and a woeful lack of thoughtfulness.

Date: 2010-09-01 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lpetrazickis.livejournal.com
Toronto Star's commenting clusterscrew offers the option to cross-post comments to FB. On a rare occasion, it's useful.

Date: 2010-09-01 05:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dpolicar
There was a time when I posted long, somewhat self-contained comments on other people's posts. I have since then mostly migrated to a habit of posting such things on my own LJ and posting pointers as comments.

That said... if one ignores the existence of friends-locked/filtered posts, or assumes that this autopost-comments feature doesn't work for those, then I can see the point... it allows me to go "Oh look, my FB friend made a comment that intrigues me, let me track back to the original post they were commenting on.

That said, in practice I expect to see my FB page cluttered with a thousand entries reading "Yeah, me too!" and "LOL!" if this becomes popular.

Date: 2010-09-01 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] don-fitch.livejournal.com
"Is there _anyone_ who does this?" Come now, Andrew, you certainly know enough fans & other humans to know that not matter how silly -- or horrible -- something is, the probability is close to 100% that _someone_ will do it. *sigh*

Rhetoric aside, yeah, there seems to be a (sadly large, IMHO) number of people who Deeply Believe that everything they have to say is so Important that it should be heard/read by everyone in the whole wide world, or (failing that) by as many people as possible.

Mind you, I wasn't far from being in that category back (say 50 or 60 years) when I was much younger, but nowadays I'm barely able to keep up with my tiny segment of LJ, and seem to be able (so far) to ignore the cryptic bits from other media that creep into it.

Date: 2010-09-01 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
Huh. I thought I replied to this but apparently not. I'll tell you what is fucking annoying, though; I now have to type tab twice instead of once to post comments on LJ without using a mouse now.

Date: 2010-09-02 03:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matgb
That should now be fixed, it was a bug. Then, they also had Lorem Ipsum where the instructions should've been on the Facebook login page. Silly LJ.

Date: 2010-09-02 03:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matgb
You know you keep telling me I should post more?

You know what I've mostly been doing recently? Commenting, all over the place.

It used to be I'd link and discuss, these days I just discuss. So now I can discuss, then link.

I had the twitter box checked by default, but then accidentally tweeted something stupid, so now I'll consciously check it if the comment's substantive. I've already had people reply to me on Twitter agreeing with my first comment tweet, adn that one was really badly formatted.

If I start using comment titling, this explains what I'm doing, right?

Date: 2010-09-02 08:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matgb
make a wild guess ;-) I has been following you for ages, norty Andrew. @matgb

Date: 2010-09-02 01:17 pm (UTC)
matgb: Artwork of 19th century upper class anarchist, text: MatGB (Default)
From: [personal profile] matgb
Same as usual then. I mostly reply to people at the moment, thus you don't see me unless you follow that person or I reply to you, which I tend to do here anyway.

Terms restarted, might get into a decent routine now, we'll see.

Date: 2010-09-02 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
I got the impression from some posts people have made warning about this feature that it automatically reposts your comments to FB, but when I looked at my LJ settings, by default it had repost posts to on (which has been there for ages) and repost comments to off.

Perhaps there's something unusual about how LJ are doing my configuration, but AFAICT this is an opt-in thing, so I don't quite understand what all the kerfuffle is about.

Date: 2010-09-02 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
I can understand that.

It raises interesting questions about who the comment 'belongs to' and who has 'rights' to do what. People are reacting as if the comments belong to the person who made the post, but I think the correct way in how people normally think of these things of looking at it would be to say it's up to the person who makes the comment to decide if it's reposted.

OTOH I think the whole "rights of the individual" model leads to general ass-hattery, so I'd say we should think about how our actions affect other people first of all.

Date: 2010-09-02 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
Does the repost thing say "Here is AD's post title" or "Here is what I wrote on AD's post"?

If the issue is that it reveals that there is a flocked post that other people can't see, then you can already tell that quite easily (although it's not broadcast to the world).

Date: 2010-09-02 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
OK, so it leaks the title of a flocked post if the person making the comment ticks the box saying "Send this to Facebook". Is that right?

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