Delicious LiveJournal Links for 6-8-2010

[andrewducker]

• Microsoft reveals their censorship policies for Mobile OS 7. Shan't be getting one of those then.
  (tags: Windows microsoft MobilePhones freespeech censorship)
• Erik Johansson's impossible photography
  (tags: photography photoshop art inspiration photos)
• How do they get to be that way? - Roger Ebert on murals, racism and watching America change as he grew up.
  (tags: race racism arizona history rogerebert usa)
• Cropped Reuters photo of the Gaza boardings deletes a knife - and a pool of blood
  (tags: photos propaganda media israel)
• Urine Test for Autism Not Really Likely Despite Media Reports
  (tags: autism psychology research)
• Urinary Metabolic Phenotyping Differentiates Children with Autism from Their Unaffected Siblings and Age-Matched Controls
  (tags: autism research science biology)

Comments

[bracknellexile.livejournal.com]

Without knowing where you got the link to the PDF, is there any reason why you linked to a policy document that is a year old and says on the first page, "Applies to: Windows Mobile™ 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5" rather than 7?

[andrewducker]

Not reading clearly?

I'm going to do a quick check and se where I found it, and if I can find the Win7 one!

[bracknellexile.livejournal.com]

Fair enough. I wondered if the context on the original page that had linked to it implied it was the same for WinMo7.

[andrewducker]

Aha! It was because I read this:
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-no-porn-apps-allowed-on-windows-phone-7
and then missed that the actual PDF is different to the announcement.

There is an actual announcement here:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/wpdev/archive/2010/06/07/new-policies-for-next-gen-windows-phone-marketplace.aspx

But the page it links to is currently down! Gah!

[bracknellexile.livejournal.com]

I think the crux of whether Microsoft is going down the Apple route or not is, as is said in the comments on your 2nd link, whether you have to go through the WinMo Marketplace or whether the restrictions only apply to apps sold through there and developers can still distribute apps independently without users having to "jailbreak" WinMo phones.

If you want to distribute through Marketplace to get your app seen, you play by their rules. If you don't want to play by their rules then you can distribute independently but don't get your app advetised in the place most folks are likely to look. That compromise makes far more sense to me than Apple's locked-down fickle-policy AppStore.

Any idea if that's the case or if they're just mimicking Apple with a Marketplace-or-nothing model?

[princealbert.livejournal.com]

First pre-win7 you can use several legal methods of installing apps onto your phone. So Microsoft doesn't want to carry these on their store front. Their choice, and not comparable to Apple who wont allow you install apps legally from other sources.

WinMo7 to my knowledge supports non-M$ marketplaces, the same as Android.

[bracknellexile.livejournal.com]

Cool. Good to know. Seeing as we develop for Windows, developing for WinMo is a next logical step for us and something we'd only sell as a component of our product so we'd have no reason to go through Marketplace.

[andrewducker]

Windows Mobile 7 apps must be MS approved:
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2010/03/windows_phone_7_3.html;jsessionid=134MIOPXG55OJQE1GHRSKHWATMY32JVN

[princealbert.livejournal.com]

"Microsoft wanted us to clarify that enterprise customers will be able to deploy apps to employees outside the consumer-facing Marketplace -- details on that will be released in the future."

Thats from the links you're posting Andrew. C'mon play fair. Simon specifically mentioned this.

[andrewducker]

Sorry, didn't actually see that when I was scanning the email. I'm glad that enterprises will be able to roll things out to their employees, but also disappointed that the rest of us won't be able to do that.

[princealbert.livejournal.com]

Dont really care.

I jumped from years on WinMo to Android because I cant stand the WinMo7 interface. Its the Fisher Price of phones which is great for a new section of the market but not a successor to WinMo6.5

So long and thanks for all the flash.

[Although I doubt we'll see the same mysterious app deletions on WinMo7 as we've witnessed countless times on iPhone. Microsoft will make rules and stick to them. Rules will change over time. We've had 7 years of xbox marketplace now, its not a new game to them.]

[andrewducker]

Yeah, I actually expect MS to act better than Apple there, they're used to dealing with customers who expect stability and standards.

[bracknellexile.livejournal.com]

Cheers for all the links and updates. It's still clear as mud as to what an "Enterprise Customer" is or what it will cost but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it :)

[andrewducker]

See Roy's clarification below - Enterprises _will_ be abl to deploy stuff to their employees outside of the MS store, but ordinary people won't be able to bypass the systems.

Don't know how this will work with your customers.

[bracknellexile.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I just saw the update on the Engadget link. Wonder what being an "Enterprise Customer" will cost... :s

Cheers for all the updates and links, guys!

[andrewducker]

sadly not:
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2010/03/windows_phone_7_3.html

[andrewducker]

Aha!
http://developer.windowsphone.com/

No porn. No guns pointing at the user. No unpleasant violence.

[bracknellexile.livejournal.com]

So pleasant violence is fine then :)

[andrewducker]

So long as you say thank-you afterwards you're fine :->