Next time someone defends the US health system point them at these graphs

[andrewducker]

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[broin.livejournal.com]

Did you see Gapminder's TED talk? Really good.

[andrewducker]

Yeah - I was very impressed with it.

[chillies.livejournal.com]

This TED talk has a load of other info to corroborate this. If you get bored, skip ahead to the ending at 17:00

http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_reveals_new_insights_on_poverty.html

[chillies.livejournal.com]

errr ... he's gapminder, isn't he

[cdave]

I'd be interested to see the same data used to make the x axis "cost of healthcare per person", and the circle radius reflecting GDP.

[andrewducker]

I did X-axis as cost/person and y-axis as GDP/person.
http://graphs.gapminder.org/world/#$majorMode=chart$is;shi=t;ly=2003;lb=f;il=t;fs=11;al=30;stl=t;st=t;nsl=t;se=t$wst;tts=C$ts;sp=6;ti=2007$zpv;v=0$inc_x;mmid=XCOORDS;iid=phAwcNAVuyj1jiMAkmq1iMg;by=ind$inc_y;mmid=YCOORDS;iid=phAwcNAVuyj2tPLxKvvnNPA;by=ind$inc_s;uniValue=8.21;iid=phAwcNAVuyj0XOoBL_n5tAQ;by=ind$inc_c;uniValue=255;gid=CATID0;by=grp$map_x;scale=log;dataMin=194;dataMax=96846$map_y;scale=lin;dataMin=23;dataMax=86$map_s;sma=49;smi=2.65$cd;bd=0$inds=#$majorMode=chart$is;shi=t;ly=2003;lb=f;il=t;fs=11;al=30;stl=t;st=t;nsl=t;se=t$wst;tts=C$ts;sp=6;ti=2005$zpv;v=0$inc_x;mmid=XCOORDS;iid=tR3MM%2DUTZ0B44BKxxWeAZaQ;by=ind$inc_y;mmid=YCOORDS;iid=phAwcNAVuyj1jiMAkmq1iMg;by=ind$inc_s;uniValue=8.21;iid=phAwcNAVuyj0XOoBL%5Fn5tAQ;by=ind$inc_c;uniValue=255;gid=CATID0;by=grp$map_x;scale=lin;dataMin=10;dataMax=7154$map_y;scale=lin;dataMin=269;dataMax=119849$map_s;sma=49;smi=2.65$cd;bd=0$inds=

You can make your own graphs - have a play :->

[simont]

Call me country-I-live-in-centric, but it seems a shame not to know which of those blobs is the UK...

(Also, can't help noticing a certain lack of resolution in the y-coordinates of the right hand graph :-)

[andrewducker]

You could probably recreate the whole graph in about 30 seconds at the site...

[simont]

Oh yes, so I can. I couldn't earlier, due to some sort of cockup with Flash on my work machine.

[khbrown.livejournal.com]

They (the US) are going to be hoist by their own petard. So long as they do not take the rest of the world with them.

One of your recent poster commented on how good health care for those in the military was. I can't help thinking that there's an element of making things shit by design for the poor and non-white, that to get health care or an education they 'have' to enlist.

It's also why Michael Moore's Sick is interesting, as the opposite of implicit Hollywood propaganda: Here's one of those all too rare films which is showing the other side of the coin, not what US films and TV would have us believe.