Date: 2009-06-28 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomchris.livejournal.com
I think there should be clearer guidelines on the right to talk about faith with patients. At the moment, what we have appears to be basically a section 28 for Christianity; doctors are now so worried that they might be struck off for discussing their faith with a patient - even if the patient brings up the topic - that they're unwilling to do so. Spiritual well-being should be something that a doctor's able to discuss - because it has a massive impact on psychological health - and talking about faith is an important part of that. In order to do that, you've got to be able to mention your own views. Naturally, the doctor's religious tendencies should be much less important than the patient's, but it should be possible to talk about them without fear.

Date: 2009-06-28 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missedith01.livejournal.com
I simply think it isn't the doctor's job to support people spiritually, and if they are doing that then I'd like them to do it in time that I'm not paying for.

Date: 2009-06-28 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] endless-psych.livejournal.com
Well... it is, or should arguably be, their job to support their patients emotionally and psychologically and also to respect their spiritual needs and wishes (generally relating to treatment refusal and the like). So there is perhaps the argument that if the patient seeks a spiritual connection or support from their physician (and the physician is able to provide it) then it's not a big deal.

But medical staff shouldn't be actively seeking out patients who need spiritual care. For one thing the NHS pays chaplins for that.

Date: 2009-06-28 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missedith01.livejournal.com
Exactly, although I think there shouldn't a chaplaincy service paid for by the NHS either.

I'm all for doctors ensuring that spiritual needs are met if patients request it, but they should be doing that by enabling patients to make contact with their preacher/guru/personal trainer and not by becoming involved themselves on the NHS's time.

Date: 2009-06-29 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] endless-psych.livejournal.com
Yeah I do tend to think that the chapliancy service in itself is _already_ (thats done for emphasis yeah?) a duplication of other services (psychological care and the like).

Date: 2009-06-28 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] endless-psych.livejournal.com
My first referral link. I feel warm and fuzzy inside :D

Date: 2009-06-28 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
We've had PR for quite a while (after switching from FPTP), and I'd say it's improved most everything about parliament and government. It can be cruel to third parties though, which results in the careful ones opting to support the ruling party without actually being in government. So there's been no sign of the tail wagging the dog.

I'm unsure how you'd measure whether there's less corruption in government, but it is obvious some vested interests definitely don't like PR, going by editorials and such. We have had a list MP resign recently (after losing the confidence of the PM), which just meant another list member took their place. Under FPTP that would've resulted in a bi-election, and a government may not have been as ready to kick a member out when it would cause a bi-election. So that's one possible way they may be less corrupt, though obviously it doesn't apply to members with seats.

Date: 2009-06-28 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com
That does seem a downside to PR if the PM can force individuals with whom he/she disagrees to resign and simply replace them with someone else of their choosing.

Date: 2009-06-29 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
The new MP is taken from the highest one on the party's list who's not already in parliament, (assuming they still want the job, I guess). So not quite just anyone of the PM's choosing.

Date: 2009-06-29 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com
Yes, but it still seems a worrying concentration of power to me.

Date: 2009-06-29 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
The main party in power is much more accountable under PR than under FPTP. For starters, you can't have a party in power with total control unless they receive more than 50% of the popular vote. That's not happened for a while here, or in the UK. Yet under FPTP coalitions are rarely needed unless it's a very close race between the two major parties.

Going by that UK chart, it seems the Labour Party received about 35% of the popular vote. Or looked at another way, 65% of the voting public did NOT want them in power. That's the concentration of power you should be worried about.

Date: 2009-06-28 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heyokish.livejournal.com
Having had more than one occasion in hospital where I have been obnoxiously prayed for and at, and, when objecting, told that there was no point and no hope to my life without Jesus...I'm in an absolute froth about this.

You are already asked about religion when you're in hospital...if you have a particular faith, if you want a chaplain or any other religious type to come and visit you. If you ask, they'll find you someone to do all the spiritual handholding you want. But, it's not the job of medical staff, and it shouldn't be.

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