Date: 2020-09-30 11:30 am (UTC)
rmc28: Rachel in hockey gear on the frozen fen at Upware, near Cambridge (Default)
From: [personal profile] rmc28

First link should be "this specific variant of intermittent fasting doesn't help weight loss": restricting eating to a specific 8-hour period each day is not the same thing as 5:2, which is my immediate association with intermittent fasting.

(I mean, 5:2 may also not work for many people either, but that's not what this study says.)

Date: 2020-10-01 12:17 am (UTC)
mountainkiss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mountainkiss
Strictly speaking 5/2 isn't intermittent fasting, but caloric restriction (though your wider point clearly holds).

Date: 2020-09-30 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anna_wing
Every dietary regime for weight loss will work if it results in one eating fewer calories than one expends every day,and not otherwise. When and how doesn't matter, except insofar as it makes it easier for the person to stick to the regime. Weight loss (as opposed to general health) is a quantitative matter. Intermittent Fasting is not an exception; it will work to make you lose weight only if you're still eating at a deficit.

Assorted medical conditions mental and physical may adjust the number of calories, and sometimes the mental effort, involved. Some medications increase appetite or cause fluid retention. But it doesn't let someone accumulate body fat out of nothing. If you're gaining weight or not losing it, you're eating more than or the same as your daily energy expenditure, regardless of what or how many times a day you eat.

Same in reverse with a dietary regime for weight gain.
Edited Date: 2020-09-30 01:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2020-10-01 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anna_wing
Yes, so you adjust the amount and kind of food that you eat, depending on your sex, size and activity level. That is the real hard part for almost everyone (I know exactly one person who found it mentally easy to maintain the discipline, but 'lose weight or get diabetes in the next year' was a really good incentive; and she had a sensible doctor and dietician to help her handle the food part, and friends to accompany her on nightly walks for the exercise part).



Edited Date: 2020-10-01 04:51 am (UTC)

Date: 2020-09-30 01:27 pm (UTC)
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea, in a friend's kitchen (Default)
From: [personal profile] redbird
So of course at the end of this sensible article there's a big ad for a video promoting intermittent fasting. *sigh*

Date: 2020-09-30 02:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] momentsmusicaux
Hey, some of us angry arseholes are on the right side!!
Edited Date: 2020-09-30 02:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2020-09-30 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ironyoxide
>Ascension.

St. Helena would've been too obvious.

Date: 2020-09-30 04:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chess
I think what the arseholes article misses (understandably, given it happened afterwards) is the extent to which some countries can outsource their arsehole gathering to other countries when it comes to it (I'm thinking of Syria - while there were homegrown arseholes in place, the real bulwark that stopped Assad losing the country was imported force.)

Date: 2020-09-30 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] theandrewhickey
That unnamed Facebook exec *has* to be Clegg, doesn't it? :-/

Date: 2020-10-01 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] theandrewhickey
Re: the postal votes thing, yes, it's ridiculous nonsense. The idea that postal votes aren't counted at the count is an outright lie. I was at the general election counts in 2010, 2015, and 2017, and at local and byelection counts in most other years for the last fourteen years. At every single count I've been to, the postal votes have been counted by *exactly* the same people who counted the other ballots.

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