Date: 2019-01-10 12:53 pm (UTC)
xenophanean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] xenophanean
Corbyn's deal appears to be either:

"Fuck it, let's just join the EEA, but can we call it something else so we don't look crap".

Likely EU reaction: (resigned) "Sure, why not, but you'll get a slightly crappy version so it doesn't piss off Norway"

or

"Can we have *some* of the 4 freedoms, but not all of them?"

Likely EU reaction: (fury) "FFS, read the last, like, 300 memos where we have said WE WILL NOT FUCKING DO THIS! FFS We just can't even!"

Date: 2019-01-10 12:59 pm (UTC)
xenophanean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] xenophanean
Yes, I worry that this is true. I think it's a complete non-starter, which frankly makes me want him to resign. It's utter crap.

Date: 2019-01-10 10:33 pm (UTC)
skington: (fail)
From: [personal profile] skington
The Guardian's liveblog reckoned the main talking point from Corbyn's speech today was that he fundamentally doesn't care about Brexit; he's reflexively Eurosceptic for Bennite reasons, and because he fears the centre-right-dominated EU will never allow socialism in one country, but other than that he mostly cares about class divides, rich vs poor etc.

The problem is that increasingly the country's divisions are young vs old (a far better predictor of how you voted Tory vs Labour in England and Wales at the last general election), and increasingly remain vs leave.

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