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Date: 2018-01-10 10:22 am (UTC)
danieldwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
No we don't get to directly chosse what she thinks and what she wants to do.

But we get to decide how we label that. Pragmatic democrat or traitor. A bad Remainer or a New Brexiteer. Honourable or wretched. Right or wrong.

And through that label influence others.

Date: 2018-01-10 10:23 am (UTC)
mountainkiss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mountainkiss

We do, but any label implying that there is any meaning now for her in her previous conviction is inaccurate.

Date: 2018-01-10 10:26 am (UTC)
danieldwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
The label has consequences for her, even if she wants to move beyond it.

Part of her current advantage is that she is sufficiently in both camps to survive. Part of her problem is that her room for manouvre is limited because she is not fully trusted by either side.

And this sort of grudge keeping is exactly what I was talking about on Sunday.

Date: 2018-01-10 10:30 am (UTC)
mountainkiss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mountainkiss

In my view the negative consequences of the inaccuracy of the label when applied to her, with its consequent dilutions of both the integrity of the labeller and the meaning of the label, outweigh any positive consequences in this context.

Date: 2018-01-10 10:31 am (UTC)
danieldwilliam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
I would expect you to take such an open and honest approach.

It is good that at least one of us is not being corrupted by Brexit.

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