Morals (Neeeeed Mooooore Sleeeeeeeep)
Mar. 23rd, 2002 10:53 amWas up until about 2am last night chatting to Erin. She was finishing off the first Invisibles collection, covering Transvestite Aztech Shamans, Living Cities, Dead Beatles and the Marquis de Sade as the architect of a Future Utopia. She was a tad confused, not just by the comic (which is confusing, but in a truly fantastic way), but by the way it made her feel.
I remember going through similar things a few years back (note - write something on feeling old, going through phases, and suchlike. Try not to sound too patronising), and how long it took me to reach an internal resolution.
The main problem is with feeling things that you intrinsically feel that you shouldn't feel. In this case, the feelings are to do with the delightful Marquis (and if you havent' seen Quills, go see it now).
I can certainly see where the problem arises - if you find yourself enjoying things that you know are morally reprehensible, then doesn't that make you a bad person?
The answer, to me, is no. You're a bad person if you do things which you know to be bad. To enjoy reading about them, watching them on tv or pretending to do them is perfectly reasonable. Part of this is down to my general belief that people aren't a reflection of some platonic ideal man, but are far more fuzzy than that, being the end result of endless change, process and intermixing. There's no way that people 'should be' or things that people 'should do', there's just the way that people are. Therefore, to feel a particular way cannot be good or bad, it's just there.
I also don't believe in a cohesive personality. I tend to view people (yes, including myself) as shifting groups of feelings, thoughts and reactions, flowing around each other. These feelings and thoughts have their origins in numerous places (nurture _and_ nature, for a start, and nobody has just one source of either), so of course they're not all going to line up in one direction, pointing to "What I really deep down want". For instance, the thought of people running riot with pointy objects, causing massive damage and death horrifies me. I'm really looking forward to Episode 2 because it's going to be full of death and destruction. Want me to reconcile these two views? Not gonna happen. There's a part of me that's horrified by death and destruction and a part of me that thinks that it's rilly kewl.
So, to sum up:
1) People have conflicting feelings about various subjects, which means they may feel good about something they also feel revolted by.
2) To have 'bad' feelings is not to be a bad person, to perform bad acts is what makes you a bad person.
3) I feel stupid using the word 'bad' nowadays, not believing in that kind of thing any more, and I probably ought to write something about that.
4) It's impossible for me to write something serious down without realising that it's going to involve writing two more serious things down.
Of course, by the time we finished talking about it, it was 2am and we were up at 8:30m this morning. And that's why I'm damn tired.
I remember going through similar things a few years back (note - write something on feeling old, going through phases, and suchlike. Try not to sound too patronising), and how long it took me to reach an internal resolution.
The main problem is with feeling things that you intrinsically feel that you shouldn't feel. In this case, the feelings are to do with the delightful Marquis (and if you havent' seen Quills, go see it now).
I can certainly see where the problem arises - if you find yourself enjoying things that you know are morally reprehensible, then doesn't that make you a bad person?
The answer, to me, is no. You're a bad person if you do things which you know to be bad. To enjoy reading about them, watching them on tv or pretending to do them is perfectly reasonable. Part of this is down to my general belief that people aren't a reflection of some platonic ideal man, but are far more fuzzy than that, being the end result of endless change, process and intermixing. There's no way that people 'should be' or things that people 'should do', there's just the way that people are. Therefore, to feel a particular way cannot be good or bad, it's just there.
I also don't believe in a cohesive personality. I tend to view people (yes, including myself) as shifting groups of feelings, thoughts and reactions, flowing around each other. These feelings and thoughts have their origins in numerous places (nurture _and_ nature, for a start, and nobody has just one source of either), so of course they're not all going to line up in one direction, pointing to "What I really deep down want". For instance, the thought of people running riot with pointy objects, causing massive damage and death horrifies me. I'm really looking forward to Episode 2 because it's going to be full of death and destruction. Want me to reconcile these two views? Not gonna happen. There's a part of me that's horrified by death and destruction and a part of me that thinks that it's rilly kewl.
So, to sum up:
1) People have conflicting feelings about various subjects, which means they may feel good about something they also feel revolted by.
2) To have 'bad' feelings is not to be a bad person, to perform bad acts is what makes you a bad person.
3) I feel stupid using the word 'bad' nowadays, not believing in that kind of thing any more, and I probably ought to write something about that.
4) It's impossible for me to write something serious down without realising that it's going to involve writing two more serious things down.
Of course, by the time we finished talking about it, it was 2am and we were up at 8:30m this morning. And that's why I'm damn tired.