Date: 2010-02-06 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com
Hmm how about we pay them less AND let them have sane working hours?

Date: 2010-02-06 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheekbones3.livejournal.com
You do know they aren't potatoes don't you?


Just checking...!

Date: 2010-02-06 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheekbones3.livejournal.com
That's what I thought, and one burst one. I bet that was some trip...

Date: 2010-02-06 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meihua.livejournal.com
I don't understand the fuss about that banker's pay. I know tons of people who work about 1/3 of the hours (the usual 37.5) and earn about 1/3 of the amount. Yes, they're getting stupid amounts of money, yes, it's for stupid amounts of work. There are lots of problems with the situation, but an unqualified, "They're just getting paid too much" doesn't seem to be one of them.

Date: 2010-02-06 01:28 pm (UTC)
matgb: Artwork of 19th century upper class anarchist, text: MatGB (Default)
From: [personal profile] matgb
Ah, but have you, personally, been responsible for over £1billion pounds of profit in one financial year?

If I knew I was making that much money for my company in profit, I'd want a bloody hefty salry.

And I recall (but can't link to) a study that showed fraud prevention was a pretty significant reason for the high pay, but the banks won't admit it for obvious reasons.

Date: 2010-02-06 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] call-waiting.livejournal.com
Fundamentally, what they do is take someone else's capital, expose it to a calculated risk, and hope it comes back positive. I could make a billion or so given enough seed capital. The responsibility lies primarily with whoever put up the capital.

The amount of work involved in making the trades is (more or less) independent of the amount of capital, which is what determines the size of the profit (or loss)

Date: 2010-02-06 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
I was shocked at how awful a lot of the friends were in the pregnancy article-- I wonder if the description was literal (I've asked at the blog) and how many people have social lives like that.

Date: 2010-02-06 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kurosau.livejournal.com
Small correction, in addition to what's already been said. Those aren't surgery photos, they're autopsy photos.

Date: 2010-02-06 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missedith01.livejournal.com
I think where I part company in the banking article is that people are largely angry about the failed banks paying bonuses rather than banks which have remained profitable and where he says people would just leave and that would be the end of the bank. Er ... no, people might leave and if they did they would be replaced by other people.

Date: 2010-02-06 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xquiq.livejournal.com
One of the things that irritates me about the amount of noise around bonus culture is that there is often little distinction drawn between bankers, investment bankers & 'people who work for banks'.

I think many people would be surprised to know what e.g. a mortgage adviser or branch manager actually earns.

Date: 2010-02-07 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
Contract Analyst programmers of 5 years experience make more than that financial analyst at the same banks for circa 40 hour weeks. (OK we get taxed to the overall tune of about 50%, and more experience over 5 doesn't get you paid any more highly, usually). Though presumably Mr Analyst intends to climb some sort of hierarchy into making a bit more. If I read it right, he is in the same jobrole/career path as the (in)famous CityBoy ... 'nuff said.

Feel free to hate us too. Or join us. There are any number of ex-cops, ex-soliders, ex-hairdressers etc. Some of them are even quite good :-).

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