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The bit about arguments...

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From:

nameandnature

Ah,

ginmar, LJ's leading feminist.

From:

andrewducker

Aaah, you were over there too?

Actually, she wasn't the worst.

One person (effectively) accused me of thinking women were responsible for rape, and then when I took a deep breath, pointed out that they weren't going to look good with that approach and asked them if they'd like to debate me in a reasonable manner, or just look like an idiot, opted for the latter.

Ginmar, although coming over as a complete idiot, at least seemed to want to debate.

I don't mind people having opposing views to me - I do object to them calling me revolting names and then refusing to engage.

From:

nameandnature

I've been reading the Boob stuff on and off on my friends-of-friends list.

The renewed discussion of

theferrett's old "I'd do ya" posts is quote-mining from an extended thread where he does actually listen to some women when they explain stuff. Some (though not all) women fear male violence even in situations where it's not being explicitly threatened, and that's why his suggestions about what should happen to women who give in to persistent nagging is spectacularly inappropriate even though it's obviously hyperbole.

odanu does a good job of correcting him.

ginmar and her fangirls do a terrible one, as usual.

There's an argument that feminists aren't there to keep explaining "Feminism 101" to the ignorant. I think that's a problem of register: it's fine for

ginmar to expect people to know about feminism if they're commenting on her journal even though it's open to the public, but AFAICT there are no signs up on the other journal (which I'm not linking because you didn't) saying "you are expected to know what privilege is to comment here" or anything. If you're sick of explaining stuff to the ignorant, the right thing is not to reply at all, not to chew them out for their ignorance, I think. This requires considerable restraint though. I have a hard time holding back when I read some stuff on

challenging_god.

From:

andrewducker

Oh, totally agree. The idea that the whole world should be completely caught up with social idea/level X is one that baffles me.

From:

daisyflip.livejournal.com

I like that video. I poked my nose around the boob debate and I'm worried by the conclusion that there are way too many frightened ladies in the world. Frightened and easily offended ladies. I'm more worried that I instantly disliked 67% of people who commented on the issue and hoped they would just grow a flippin' backbone.

I may have misunderstood a lot of the YEARS AND YEARS long arguments but why were we offended by the asking to touch boobs? In my understanding rapists tend not to ask. That's not rape - that's just bad sex.

You will notice I'm only brave enough to say that on this thread, because a lot of people on LJ scare the living daylights out of me.

And Andy, don't be ashamed. Women do ask for a good raping now and again. I dare you to go on one of the threads and insinuate they should be grateful.