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Studies have shown that girls do better in all girl's schools than they do in mixed schools.

Which makes this study particularly interesting.

It's hard to summarise more than it already is, but it shows that when women compete with men and women they don't improve their performance significantly, whereas men do. Women competing solely with Women _do_ improve their performance, it's just when competing in mixed circumstances that they don't seem to improve as much.

I'm not sure what's going on, but it definitely deserves researching in more details to see what's going on.

Date: 2004-04-24 11:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nickys.livejournal.com
Partially it's that boys tend to be more disruptive when ignored, so teachers give more attention to the boys just for the sake of keeping order.

Beyond a certain age as well there's a social pressure on girls to underperform or be considered unattractive to boys.
Sadly certain proportion of the male population don't think it's right that their partners should either earn more than them or do better in exams than them.

Date: 2004-04-24 01:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nickys.livejournal.com
Well, I was always aware that it wasn't fair that boys put pressure on girls to act stupid, and I was far too stubborn to collaborate in my own oppression.
(I still am, of course - remember when you were trying to describe me and you said I never started a fight, but always seemed to be having them anyway?)
It made for pretty miserable school days, and I was absolutely stunned to find that when I went away to university guys actually spoke to me, asked me out and things like that, because at school "clever" seemed to mean "undesirable".


Still, even when I was young and scared and lonely I had the germ of the idea that if guys disliked my intelligence then that was a problem with them, not a problem with me.

Date: 2004-04-24 04:11 pm (UTC)
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I was absolutely stunned to find that when I went away to university guys actually spoke to me, asked me out and things like that, because at school "clever" seemed to mean "undesirable".

Yep. 'Zactly what happened with me too. Glad we both seem to have found guys who don't mind that we've got a degree, or when we make more money. :)

Date: 2004-04-25 08:33 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nickys.livejournal.com
Yep.

And, of course, the only guys we're missing out on are ones who aren't really worth the bother anyway due to their odd hangups... :o)

Date: 2004-04-25 11:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] moniqueleigh
Damn right! *chuckle*

I consider myself pretty understanding of most odd hangups (got a few of my own, even), but I never could understand "I can only be with someone dumber/poorer than myself." Huh??? I mean, if they're smarter, make more money, & still want to be with you, what is the problem?? *shrug*

Date: 2004-04-24 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-amber.livejournal.com
Beyond a certain age as well there's a social pressure on girls to underperform or be considered unattractive to boys.

I think it's mostly this really. Smart women aren't on the whole regarded as sexy, or if they are as still too scarey to go out with : Xander Harris and the owner of this LJ being exceptions :-) I am glad i went to a (mostly - long story single sex girl's school even tho it did nothing for my social/sexual development , it did a hell of a lot for my secure notion that Being Bright was a Good Thing.

Date: 2004-04-24 03:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nickys.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure, from some of the things he's said, that one of my Unloving Brother-in-Law's hangups is that I have a degree and he doesn't.

Luckily this doesn't seem to bother [livejournal.com profile] original_aj at all. Nor does the fact that I used to earn more than him (that other classic male ego problem area for relationships).


There are quite a few men who don't fall for the stereotype and who think intelligent, competant women are sexy.

Date: 2004-04-24 03:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nickys.livejournal.com
Not only that, I sleep with someone who doesn't have a degree... :o)

Date: 2004-04-25 08:33 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nickys.livejournal.com
I don't think I approve of shame... :o)

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