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[andrewducker]

This is a perfect illustration of what's wrong with the commercialisation of society.

allorin - this is what you were talking about the other day...

Now, if someone can offer me a solution, I'd be very grateful...

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[yonmei.livejournal.com]

Socialism.

;-)

That, and never buy anything for which you have no use.

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[andrewducker]

I wish socialism worked. I really do. I'd be soooo in favour of it.

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[yonmei.livejournal.com]

Well, it does work. Compare and contrast, for example, the NHS to the American healthcare system. The first is socialism, the second is capitalism: and you can see which is more successful.

The problem is that in any given society, the most powerful people are always against socialism, and will do anything to suppress it. In some cases - as when setting up the NHS - a socialist programme is so successful and so popular that it cannot be directly suppressed by a democratic government.

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[andrewducker]

Aah, yes. I _do_ believe that socialist institutions can and should exist inside a generally capitalist culture.

It's not like I want taxes to go down or anything like that.

I think that (v. briefly) capitalism is necessary to cause increases in wealth and give people the incentive to work and socialism is necessary to look after people and deal with monopolies (look after natural ones, prevent unnatural ones).

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[yonmei.livejournal.com]

Aah, yes. I _do_ believe that socialist institutions can and should exist inside a generally capitalist culture.

Whereas I believe that small capitalist organisations can and should exist inside a generally socialist structure.

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[andrewducker]

Well there ya go. We both believe that both are necessary. We just need to get together and hammer out the details and we can get on with ruling the world.

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[yonmei.livejournal.com]

Good plan.

But I thought the revolution of next week was supposed to be a secret?