Date: 2023-06-13 11:54 am (UTC)
nancylebov: (green leaves)
From: [personal profile] nancylebov
4. The comments are entertaining. My favorite is the six-year-old who said, "You know what I had for lunch. You made it."

Date: 2023-06-13 01:20 pm (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
Guy #11 should definitely not have had kids, but now that he's had kids he needs to talk openly and honestly with his wife, get therapy for his depression, and get a hobby or something else that takes him outside the house.

It's hard when children are small, but it's definitely possible for a married couple, even without family, to arrange to each get a night off every week to do their own thing. And if they don't have family then I suggest they learn to make arrangements with other parents of same-aged children - you take the kids this weekend for a sleepover, I'll take them next weekend.

Date: 2023-06-13 03:10 pm (UTC)
channelpenguin: (Default)
From: [personal profile] channelpenguin
I often found myself thinking that divorced parents have actually an odd benefit in that there's formal arrangements made for one or other parent having the kids on a regular basis, so the other one has time to themselves...

Date: 2023-06-14 07:29 am (UTC)
mtbc: photograph of me (Default)
From: [personal profile] mtbc
Yeah, I had expected it to be harder to take care of our first but then the increment from a second was more than I expected. I'm definitely happier if there are at least as many caregivers as children!

Date: 2023-06-14 06:26 am (UTC)
draigwen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] draigwen
As someone who has the kids half the time and their dad the other half, I find it brilliant!

Date: 2023-06-14 07:43 am (UTC)
draigwen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] draigwen
Yeah, we split just before the youngest turned 3, and it was HARD. Although, to be fair, it's the oldest one who's always been the trouble - for a year he was only in school half time and I had to have him at home the other half even on days when the ex was meant to have them (because I could work from home). They are 8 and 10 now so it's much easier and I probably also have rose tinted glasses nowadays too.

Date: 2023-06-14 07:51 am (UTC)
draigwen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] draigwen
The other half the time he was in 1-1 lessons. It meant that there was never an official exclusion on record and they could keep him in the school system. Given he could be very violent at the time we're lucky they were doing everything to keep him in school. (That was when he was in year 2. Year 5 now and still not really closer to getting a formal diagnosis, he spends a good chunk of his lessons not actually doing any work, but he's actually thriving because the school have done everything they could to keep him in school). Sorry, I seem to have derailed the conversation!

Date: 2023-06-13 03:14 pm (UTC)
channelpenguin: (Default)
From: [personal profile] channelpenguin
I never wanted kids. I didn't have any. I would NEVER have compromised. Not even for "the love of my life".

Date: 2023-06-13 03:22 pm (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
And that's the best plan. This person is not the only person you can ever love, and if you disagree on something so fundamental then it's best to end the relationship amicably and move on.

Date: 2023-06-13 08:37 pm (UTC)
calimac: (Default)
From: [personal profile] calimac
4. There's a potential additional wrinkle not discussed here, which I often use in talking with children, and that's to ask, in a deadpan tone of voice, if the child did something that is silly or ridiculous. This makes the child laugh and breaks the conversational ice.

11. This gives me pause, not that I was able to read the actual paywall-locked article. I married a woman who did not want children, and that was fine with me, but if she had very much wanted them I would have been willing. I'm aware this would have changed my life utterly, but I'm not the kind of person to regret or get depressed about having to live through life choices that I've consciously made.

Date: 2023-06-13 09:59 pm (UTC)
calimac: (Default)
From: [personal profile] calimac
Thanks for the link. Part of this guy's problem is that he had no siblings, so he never had to live with children himself, but most of it is his overly romantic and actually narcissistic idea of life as a couple. That he now feels that his wife has no time for him is what reveals this. What those men who love being fathers have that he doesn't is a sense that parenting is something that they and their wives are doing together.

And I can see that, for taking care of our cats is a major bonding experience for me and B., and a never-ending source of conversation.

What mostly scared me about having children was not the responsibility of taking care of them, or even the investment in time, energy, and attention; but the fear that we might have children like my brother, or like B.'s brother, who would have taxed any parent's ability to raise, and who are still difficult people as adults.

Date: 2023-06-13 11:22 pm (UTC)
calimac: (Default)
From: [personal profile] calimac
You don't have to worry about Gideon, at least on that account, because by the time my brother was that age, it was already clear that he was going to be a handful. And yet he was so cute! People would stop on the street to exclaim 'what a cute little boy' and my mother would just sigh.

Not that I was that easy to raise either, being on some uncataloged portion of the autism spectrum.

Date: 2023-06-13 09:06 pm (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
Well, 11's poor life choices are in no small part because he agreed without really thinking it through. He just about says as much, and I got the distinct impression that he kept hoping she'd forget all about it.
hairyears: Spilosoma viginica caterpillar: luxuriant white hair and a 'Dougal' face with antennae. Small, hairy, and venomous (Default)
From: [personal profile] hairyears
The Wall Street Journal has only just noticed that companies are posting fake job adverts.

I can hardly wait 'til they hear about recruitment agencies doing that.

Date: 2023-06-14 07:44 am (UTC)
draigwen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] draigwen
I read 10 yesterday and it made me so angry.

Date: 2023-06-14 07:53 am (UTC)
draigwen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] draigwen
All that happens is that she and her other children suffer. It's ridiculous.

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