Date: 2020-10-02 11:19 am (UTC)
lilysea: Wheelchair user: wheelchair fighting (Wheelchair user: wheelchair fighting)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
The Tories plans re asylum seekers make me SO, SO angry.

Due to COVID, asylum seekers arriving by boat should be kept separate from the wider community in a dedicated facility for 14 to 28 days to ensure that they don't have COVID, so that they don't spread COVID within the wider community - but that dedicated facility should be on either the English mainland, the Welsh mainland, or the Scottish mainland

AND that dedicated facility should be within a 15 minute ambulance ride of a major hospital, in case asylum seekers need complex medical care due to COVID, heart attack, stroke, miscarriage etc. etc.

AND while in-person visits may need to be limited due to COVID, asylum seekers should have free and unlimited access to social workers and legal advisors by Zoom/Skype/etc

If it wasn't for COVID, I wouldn't be arguing for 14 to 28 days of being kept separate for the wider community, I'd be arguing for immediate community-integrated housing

Australia, which has been doing "offshore processing" for far too long, has found that "off shore processing" of asylum seekers:

a) breaches human rights;

b) leads to permanent and major psychological harm, including PTSD;

c) leads to permanent and major physical harm, due to lack of access to complex/sophisticated medical care and also due to self-harm and suicide attempts due to severe distress

d) leads to lawsuits about b) and c)

e) costs ENORMOUS amounts of money compared to onshore processing - in one case, it was more than $1 million Australian per asylum seeker

f) does not deter people from seeking asylum

Date: 2020-10-02 01:42 pm (UTC)
dewline: Text - "On the DEWLine" (Default)
From: [personal profile] dewline
And in the Australian government's case, it seems the crueler consequences were and are considered desirable end goals in and of themselves. And people like Stephen Miller have made the same argument to Trump in Washington. Ditto Harper when he was running the federal government here, but he was more careful to not say the "quiet" part out loud. We saw it said in his silences anyway.

Date: 2020-10-02 02:27 pm (UTC)
gingicat: LIBERTY/JUSTICE is my femslash (liberty/justice)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
No argument.

On biodegradable plastic standards

Date: 2020-10-02 01:43 pm (UTC)
dewline: Text: Searching and Researching (researching)
From: [personal profile] dewline
This prompted me to ask my MP about the question of Canadian standards this morning. Thank you for that.

Date: 2020-10-02 02:25 pm (UTC)
gingicat: deep purple lilacs, some buds, some open (Default)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
That coffee experiment is set up so outside of real-world situations that I can't take it seriously.

Date: 2020-10-02 07:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] movingfinger
The straight glucose shot half an hour after first coffee isn't a typical routine for most people, I think. I would guess that if a person is eating any complex carbohydrates (slower to digest than glucose) at all, they're eating them in the morning (oat porridge e.g.)!

Not the Coffee!

Date: 2020-10-02 08:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] agoodwinsmith
I agree with folks regarding artificial and suspect. For instance: why are they muddling this issue with sleep?

With this they need at least ten scenarios (however that might be slept): (1) good sleep, sugar shot, coffee; (2) good sleep, coffee, sugar shot; (3) good sleep, no sugar, coffee; (4) good sleep, sugar shot, no coffee; (5) good sleep, sugar & coffee simultaneously (I drink my coffee with my meal, how 'bout you?); and then (6)(7)(8)(9)(10) repeats of above with poor sleep.

And what about the scenario that most likely mimics my poor-sleep-on-a-work-morning behaviour? (a) poor sleep, coffee, long pause for drive to work + work for a bit, sugar shot in the form of a lovely dripping cinnamon bun - with more coffee?

And since we're conflating things - what about the therapeutic effects of chocolate to mitigate metabolic malady? Eh?

Re: Not the Coffee!

Date: 2020-10-04 11:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mountainkiss
This is an excellent comment.

Date: 2020-10-02 08:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ninetydegrees
Ha! I drink decaf! With sugar.

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