Interesting Links for 29-11-2018
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- Brexit: More voters would prefer to stay in EU than accept Theresa May's deal
- (tags: uk europe polls )
- Wriggly, giggle, puffball: What makes some words funny?
- (tags: language humour )
- Teachers of Reddit discuss positive trends they have noticed in today's youth
- (tags: children GoodNews viaElfy )
- New research finds there is no “right thing” to say when you want to be supportive
- (tags: empathy support psychology )
- Dropping Acid - how playing with technology caused a whole new musical genre
- (tags: music history Technology )
- Brexit: Referendum may be inevitable - John McDonnell
- (tags: UK europe referendum )
- The First Labor Strike in History (in ancient Egypt)
- (tags: history strike egypt )
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Date: 2018-11-29 12:20 pm (UTC)He's been edging away from Brexit slowly but certainly for the last 18 months. He's obviously got a line to follow about triggering a general election. He'd clearly genuinely like to trigger a general election but he's prepared to admit that that might be hard, too hard, and then to explore where that leaves the Labour Party. He's not flashy about it but he is at least trying to think ahead. He's the only member of the Corbyn kitchen cabinet who gives me any cause for optimism.
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Date: 2018-11-29 06:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-11-30 09:26 am (UTC)If they are then Starmer yes, Thornberry less so.
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Date: 2018-11-30 09:27 am (UTC)She certainly is very influential. They've had neighbouring constituencies for several decades. He, I think, has earned influence but is not trusted in the same way.
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Date: 2018-11-30 09:30 am (UTC)I'd forgotten that Corbyn and Thornberry had neighbouring constituencies.
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Date: 2018-11-29 04:05 pm (UTC)Mind, no single individual takes this position. The poll asked respondents to choose the three options in order of preference. But if you map each two of them against each other, this is how it comes out.
Interestingly, if you ran AV on it, it looks like No Deal would get knocked out first, and then Remain defeats the May plan.
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Date: 2018-11-29 04:27 pm (UTC)The corrected chart is here: http://www.deltapoll.co.uk/steve-fisher-condorcet
and - if you read carefully, because the colour choices are terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad - it shows that the May Deal is preferred to Remain, No Deal is preferred to Remain, and the May Deal is preferred to No Deal. So the Condorcet winner is the May Deal.
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Date: 2018-11-29 05:09 pm (UTC)I bet you could find a fair number of people who would have non-transitive preferences here, though, because people are like that.
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Date: 2018-11-29 05:16 pm (UTC)Govt Brexit Deal: 35%
No deal: 41%
Don't know: 24%
Govt Brexit Deal: 37%
Remain: 46%
Don't know: 17%
No Deal: 40%
Remain: 50%
Don't know: 11%
That's clearly Remain as the Condorcet winner, and the Govt Brexit Deal/May's deal as the Condorcet loser. But note also that even if there's apparently intransitive preferences in the two-way ties, the number of 'Don't knows' might explain it without requiring any individual respondent to have intransitive preferences.
It evidently depends who you survey and how you survey them.
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Date: 2018-11-29 06:27 pm (UTC)Someone should inform the blogger whom I cited, but it's not going to be me, because I got lost in a welter of tweets when I tried to follow this. I thought Usenet threads were bad, but Twitter is an even worse medium to read a conversational exchange in.
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Date: 2018-11-29 08:14 pm (UTC)