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Date: 2018-09-21 12:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] momentsmusicaux
> Or universities could set their own admissions tests – just like employers do in the real world.


I don't disagree with the article overall, but surely doing that would just switch from having one stressful test to having several!

Date: 2018-09-21 12:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] momentsmusicaux
But that's at a much smaller scale. There was one of you, applying for one job.

Suppose we have all the students all across the country applying to universities at the same time. Schools will still teach to the exam -- just they'll pick the handful of unis that are most popular or most likely for their students to get in, and teach to the exams of those unis.

We get the same problems the article talks about, just multiplied.

Date: 2018-09-21 12:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jack
"The company told Reuters it was too early to say whether it was paying fewer claims because of the Vitality programme."

This itself seems like a distortion.

Q. Are you going to charge people more if they are, for instance, physically unable to use a fitness tracker?
A. No comment, but hopefully tracking people's exercise will let them live longer!

(At least fitness correlates a fair bit with life, it could be even worse :( )

Date: 2018-09-21 01:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naath
A problem here is that once the cost of your insurance accurately reflects the cost of you treatment buying insurance is pointless. And once it is entirely pointless the insurance people will go bust...

Let’s scrap external exams

Date: 2018-09-21 12:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jack
Huh. All the thoughts. His comment in the comment section that exams are a bizarrely lousy proxy for the real world seemed very cogent.

But I'm leery of "lets throw everything away". We currently have way too much oversight -- it seems obvious to everyone that schools are constantly being forced further along the path of "faking results to stay open" and "teaching to the test not trying to learn anything" and "spending so much time coping with inspections there's little time for teaching".

Going back to NOT doing that would be better!

But there are clear downsides to NO centralised standards which we've also experienced extensively in the past. Schools that become essentially indoctrination centres for a particular movement. Schools that are just terrible but have a good reputation. Desperate searches for super-human head teachers who will "turn schools around". Universities and employers just assuming which students are below average, without society going to the trouble of teaching them worse.

And also, I'm not sure the overabundance of regulation and central control is purely for its own sake, though it probably is that too -- it's likely an excuse to reduce funding once schools are shown to do badly.

I definitely think it's worth exploring, but I'd prefer to see more specifics than one giant stroke.

For that matter, in some ways, we don't need blue sky thinking, there's a lot of low hanging fruit in "this other country has a good school system, let's take lessons from them", maybe we should do that first. Alas one of the main things they do well may be "invest in schools" and "stop politicians fiddling every few months" which is hard to commit to.

Emoji town

Date: 2018-09-21 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nojay
I note that the vehicles shown in the example drive on the correct side of the road.

I approve.

Date: 2018-09-21 05:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] symbioid
The 3d emoji town makes me think of the Poltergeist game on teh TRS-80 CoCo (Dragon I guess for you guys?)

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