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Date: 2018-09-18 11:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mountainkiss
That polling is fascinating. The Mail readers would still vote for it again. I wonder why.

Date: 2018-09-18 01:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mountainkiss

There'll also be stuff about the phrasing of the poll questions.

Details on the end of European time changes

Date: 2018-09-18 12:16 pm (UTC)
jack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jack
Wow. Strange to think of this actually being something that could happen (even though we've been talking about it ever since daylight saving was introduced)

Date: 2018-09-18 12:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] xenophanean
Nooooo! Don't take away my extra hour of daylight in Summer! That would be super-annoying, it'd pretty much add an extra hour of waiting to go to work each day between March and September. I wouldn't be impressed.

Date: 2018-09-18 01:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naath
Find something to do with your mornings maybe? We are fast approaching the time when thanks to your 'extra hour of daylight' (it's not extra, it's justc moved) I have to get up in the dark (I have to anyway later ins the year, but the 'fall back' pushes me specifically back over the 'dark waking up' line; and I get tired of people who think that because they want to get up earlier then I have to too. Dark mornings are so much worse than dark evenings.

Date: 2018-09-18 09:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
If I read the item correctly, the default is going to be year-round summer time. We have a measure on the ballot in California to establish that, though it turns out the state can't do that without the approval of Congress. I hate changing the clock, but I hate the idea of year-round summer time almost as much.

Date: 2018-09-19 12:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naath
sunset later ... but still at work, how... nice. Now I can get to work *and* leave in the dark, yay. The jetlag is mildly annoying, but that is worse.

(and why does .ca do summertime, it's practically equatorial?)

Date: 2018-09-24 01:46 pm (UTC)
xenophanean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] xenophanean
From my reading, the EU's giving countries the option to go with ST or normal time, but not the switch.

Who likes to be alone? Not introverts

Date: 2018-09-18 12:27 pm (UTC)
jack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jack
What stood out to me is spending 15 minutes a day alone is something people have feelings about. OK, maybe most people cohabit, but does commuting to work count? They don't go for a walk at lunchtime? Nothing?

I usually count myself as introverted, but I don't think of it as a single thing, just a catch-all for "anything at the less people end of the social spectrum".

I feel like I can informally break that into several different tendencies. I usually *need* less time with people that some people. And socialising is more often an effort, if a worthwhile one -- time with Rachel is usually relaxing, but most people, even people I like a lot, I need a break from eventually. And I usually need SOME time away from even the people I'm closest to, maybe that is about an average 15 minutes a day (although that usually happens by default without needing to arrange it).

Re: Who likes to be alone? Not introverts

Date: 2018-09-18 01:06 pm (UTC)
naath: (Default)
From: [personal profile] naath
I spend easily 2 hours a day commuting, and I'm not alone in the sense of 'noone can see me' but I am alone in the sense of 'I don't need to talk to people'. 15 minutes is a)nothing and b)I could just read FB... wait, does FB count?

Re: Who likes to be alone? Not introverts

Date: 2018-09-18 05:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lilysea
One of the studies involved asking the participants to spend 15 minutes a day in solitude (on seven different days

I live alone, leave the house twice a week on average, and see my partner at my house three times per week on average.

I guess that makes me an Uber-introvert in the eyes of this study?

Re: Who likes to be alone? Not introverts

Date: 2018-09-18 07:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] frith
I have a friend who comes over once a week to play Scrabble and that's stressful. The silence and solitude of snowstorms is bliss.
jack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jack
Funnily enough, even though I somewhat dislike the erosion of literally (although I make an effort to avoid imposing my personal preferences as any sort of standard of correctness), I'm often more annoyed by the conversation about it.

I feel like there's a natural evolution of the word that might go from the traditional meaning of literally, to meaning "actually", to meaning "very".

But I feel like we're in the middle of the process, not the end. I think people say "he was literally spitting with rage" to mean "he was very very angry". But don't really say "he was literally angry" to mean "he was very very angry", even if we may do at some point.

And as far as I can see, no-one ever ever uses literally TO MEAN figuratively. I don't see people using "literally" in place of "figuratively" in conversations like this:

A: Fortunately he reined him in
B: Wait, like... with an actual bridle?
A: No, figuratively.

I don't know if the meaning of "meaning" has shifted under me, or if lots of people (not in this conversation, but in general) are just claiming to be pedantic while actually just using words completely wrongly.
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From: [personal profile] calimac
I agree. I see "literally" used as a generic intensifier, not actually to mean "figuratively". Maybe the claim that it is so used is just an intensifier.

But there are lots of intensifiers; to use this one which has another distinctive meaning seems to me to be bad form, no matter how many distinguished authors have used it in the past. Jane Austen used commas in a way that nobody would allow today; how she used "literally" has no greater authority.

Had to do it

Date: 2018-09-19 08:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] marahmarie
*see icon*

Date: 2018-09-19 09:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] marahmarie
I think part of the conversation around the use of "literally" to mean "figuratively" winds up going around the role hyperbole plays in expressive language, though I'd have to agree the use of literally to mean figuratively is relatively unseen.

Compare "The world literally ended at that moment for me" to "The world ended at that moment for me...well, figuratively speaking" - it seems both statements could mean the same thing, so using "literally" in the first would be a way to compress one's explanation of how it felt, not so much describe what actually happened.
Edited Date: 2018-09-19 09:12 am (UTC)
ninetydegrees: Art: self-portrait (Default)
From: [personal profile] ninetydegrees
That paper seemed very shoddy to me. First the sample is all undergrads from a certain age range (and probably from the same area or even university). That represents one very specific category of people. Secondly here was solitude meant:

"participants were instructed to take 15 minutes every day to sit by themselves, and to report their experiences with this solitary activity immediately after do" "be by themselves and stay away from any electronic devices that facilitate social interactions. Participants were also asked no t to engage in any other tasks because we wanted to capture people’s experience with solitude"

That's not solitude at all. That's just having to spend 15 minutes every day doing nothing. If they count sending someone 1 text or reading your twitter feed as social interactions... wow.

I'm an introvert. I like being alone, as in physically without any other person in the same room or even the same flat unless they are far enough that I can easily ignore them completely, and I really like silence. But more than that I *need* it. Although they are on to something with dispositional autonomy, they don't really seem to understand what introversion is about.

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