Date: 2017-10-28 11:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drplokta
And Iceland demonstrates that 300,000 people is “sufficiently large”. Independence for Preston?

Date: 2017-10-28 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ironyoxide
I work in Seattle. Our company moves about 3-4 tons of product to Vancouver BC every year. We move 8-12 tons of product to Portland Oregon a week.

The difference? Shipments to Portland don't require annoying border paperwork and arcane tax calculations.

Oregon could very well become a nation state in its own right; it certainly has the necessary infrastructure and skillset. I'd just rather they didn't, at least not without some sort of European style customs union.

Date: 2017-10-28 07:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] heron61
What Is a Nation in the 21st Century?

My answer is clear - a blight on humanity and a locus of hatred and oppression. My strong preference has always been to abolish nations and create a world government with a strong guarantee of human rights.

My feeling about nations and nationalism is best expressed by this awesome quote from the excellent Ken MacLeod novel Engine City:
'What you are looking at', said Matt, 'is the most obscene and disgusting thing I've seen in centuries. It's a map of the world which happens to be a rectangular sheet of chauvinist shit. Every one of those barbarously, artificially carved-up fragments of the world is tagged with a little rectangle of its own, a bloody badge of shame - a flag! They've got nationalism down there. If they had a virulent strain of bubonic plague instead I'd be happy for them.'

Date: 2017-10-29 03:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] conuly
What sort of monster kills cats for funzies?

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