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Date: 2017-10-12 05:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
I'm not sure I follow this "Yorkshire devolution" story. So Cameron's government had offered to devolve certain powers to large cities, and then a consortium of most of the councils governing Yorkshire then proposed getting the same powers for a single group entity governing their combined territories, is that it?

As a US citizen, I don't think a country that made such a tremendous fuss over getting Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait has any cause to twit the British over the Falklands.

Date: 2017-10-13 10:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danieldwilliam
That's pretty much the size of it.

This is a George Osborne suggestion so you have to examine it carefully for the political booby trap hidden in the workings.

Most likely that it gives the Tory Party a visible route to political influence in strongly pro-Labour big cities. The Tories think they are more likely to win a mayoral election than to win control of the related councils.

There's a suspicion amongst the local authorities who might be interested in city-region status that it will be used by the Conservative Government as a way of pushing political responsibility for funding cuts to local politicians.

Yorkshire is a bit special. Population 5m. It's probably the largest distinct area in the UK without a unitary tier of local government and it has a very strong sense of itself. It also has many medium sized cities which are a little bit spread out. Leeds at 750k is the largest. Compared with Greater Manchester at about 2.5m.

It's also badly in need of some coherent strategic infrastructure investment. It's arguably never really recovered from the effect of the Rising of the North in 1569. For certain the current transport infrastructure is woeful.

Date: 2017-10-13 11:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
I know where and what Yorkshire is (and I've been there), but this is helpful. Thank you.

"The Tories think they are more likely to win a mayoral election ..." Well, it worked in London. Once or twice.

"There's a suspicion ..." Probably well-founded. I recall similar shenanigans going on during the Thatcher era, including a quaint belief by the Tories that the people would blame the councils and not the government for the burden of the poll tax.

Date: 2017-10-13 04:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lilysea
I misread that as

"Meanwhile, inside the mind of an alt-right pastor"

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