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One of the things remaining on our slowly diminishing wedding to-do list is "Make a gift list."

The problem being that there's very little we actually want. It's not like in ye olden days when a wedding was the point where children moved out from their parents and set up their own home, needing sheets, plates, etc. to get them started. We've been living together for two years, we've both been living away from home for many years, and we have pretty much everything you need to run a home.

Julie's currently clicking through the John Lewis website, looking at crockery and trying to decide if these are things we actually want people to spend money on. I've stared blankly at the numerous other tabs, thinking "Well, yes, a 93" TV would be lovely, but I'd feel actively guilty if people spent cash on a new TV for me when the current one is great."

The things we do want feel like normal household improvements. We'd like to replace all the curtains, because they suck. We need a new kitchen, because it's godawful. I suspect we're going to say "Please give us vouchers, and we will use them to replace our curtains and kitchen appliances." But we can't even say "Please give us a new dishwasher", because the whole kitchen needs to be ripped out, and that's not happening until the PhD is finished (a month-ish after the wedding), and we don't have anywhere to put a dishwasher for a month.

Date: 2012-05-20 10:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] miss_s_b
You know, you could always just direct people to an amazon wishlist, and tell them that you've got housey stuff.

Mat and I always said we'd ask people to contribute to a fund for the honeymoon.

Date: 2012-05-21 09:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naath
A thing you could get "for the house" that comes in many small parts to make a big whole is a really *nice* dinner service/set of glassware/cutlery. Pick a style, put 8 of everything on a list and let people buy you anything from one tea spoon upwards. :-)

But yeah, the problem with most "house" stuff is people usually *have that stuff*. A lot of people I know have asked for consumables (like wine) or money (to go towards the honeymoon or a big project like "new kitchen" which no-one would buy you all of) or charity donations.

Date: 2012-05-20 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poisonduk.livejournal.com
John Lewis gift vouchers. Order the dishwasher when you need it.

Date: 2012-05-20 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poisonduk.livejournal.com
Phone was on charge in other room..re gift list. John Lewis/Debenhams will keep the stuff till you ask for delivery - normally a month or so.

Date: 2012-05-20 11:22 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's a classic thirty-something wedding headache in a nutshell. (Been there, done that.) If you've been living together in your own home for a few years, you already have the usual setting-up-a-household stuff; what's left is big-ticket.

I have no easy solution for you. Vouchers are a good idea. On the other hand, "we already have the usual stuff" a great excuse to give to folks you want to have at your wedding but who are too hard up to contribute (we are, after all, in a big-ass recession right now) and who you don't want to guilt-trip.

Date: 2012-05-20 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coth.livejournal.com
I don't know whether people do this, but you could nominate a charity?

This!

Date: 2012-05-20 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lsanderson.livejournal.com
It looks like John Lewis lets you add charities to their Gift List... or "Please ask your advisor for more details." + free coffee and cake!

Date: 2012-05-21 12:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dougs.livejournal.com
We did this, it was very successful apart from the fact that the BHF donation website was restructured comprehensively a few days after we sent out PR2 and the link we'd included stopped working. Our brighter friends went to the BHF homepage and searched on our names and the donations kept coming in. We ended up making about £1300 (and still rising) for them. Other excellent charities are available.

Date: 2012-05-20 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
Seeing this reminded me of the similar dilemma bunn and I faced. We actually managed to think of plenty of stuff we wanted, even if not much of it was stuff we needed.

In fact, I even managed to find our list from thirteen years ago:
1) Bookends
2) Adoption share in an animal at Chester Zoo
Our favourite animals are:
sand lizard
tawny frogmouth
serval
maned wolf
3) sharp chopping knife
4) 8in sharp carving knife
5) Debenhams Combi cube salt and peppermill acrylic
6) flatbottomed stainless steel 27-30cm fryingpan - must be dishwasher safe
7) 2 Large wicker laundry baskets - 'Ali Baba' style
8) 2 electrical extensions with 4-way multiplug
9) Mathmos lava lamp
10) Night sky globe
11) plasma globe/lightning ball
12) big outdoor candles
13) stuffed swordfish
14) water bubble column lamp
15) miniature pocket binoculars
16) soapstone or Zimbabwe stone hippos
17) Gift vouchers - Virgin, Masai Mara, HMV
18) book tokens
19) Djungelorm (2-meter furry snake) from IKEA
20) Braun Oral-b electric toothbrush
21) Proper dartboard and darts
22) Toilet brush (anything other than dark wood or pink plastic!)
23) 3 storage jars
24) Star Wars lego
25) Cordless kettle (preferably dark blue)
26) Volkswagen Karmann Ghia convertible - must be yellow! (bunn isn't content with two sports cars)
27) Scale model of a Volkswagen Karmann Ghia convertible - must be yellow!
28) Dremel Multi
29) Anything over 400 years old EXCEPT spurs or riding equipment
30) Anything clearly identifiable as being made in Cameroon
31) A stone or bronze hare (not rabbit)
32) Blue wine glasses
33) A hollow clear glass human head - c£7 from Staks
34) Aqua mini clock blue or Zeitgeist thunder clock
35) Boots spacetimer radio controlled digital alarm clock
36) Past Times Gothic mirror
37) 5 sticky clothes rollers for removing cat fur.
38) Electronic desktop barometer
39) pruning saw
40) 6-string pullout clothes airer
41) 6-pack tall tumblers (hi-ball)
42) Halogen desk lamp - black or chrome.
43) Red or blue wastepaper basket
44) Ratchet screwdriver with swappable heads
45) Guide to British Insects (illustrated)
46) Large black stapler with lots of staples
47) Sheepskin rug
48) up to 4 large photo albums
49) Tandy - phone socket lightning protector
50) Tandy - 10m phone extension kit
51) Full size stereo headphones - the soft, leathery kind, not the hard stick-in-your ears kind
52) microphone
53) snipe nosed pliers
54) wire strippers
55) insulated tweezers
56) antistatic wrist strap
57) The growth of the American Republic Volume 1 only (we have vol 2), Morison, Commager and Leuchtenburg
58) History of the Peloponnesian War - Thucydides
59) Oxford Illustrated Prehistory of Europe - £30
60) Penguin Atlas of Ancient History - £8
61) Star Wars - A Visual Dictionary
62) The Campaigns of Alexander - Arrian
63) Oxford Companion to Classical Civilisation
64) The Silmarillion - JRR Tolkien - (with Ted Nasmith illustrations, hardback)
65) History of Middle-Earth - JRR Tolkien -Vol 3 The Lays of Beleriand
66) History of Middle-Earth - JRR Tolkien -Vol 5 The Lost Road
67) History of Middle-Earth - JRR Tolkien -Vol 4 The Shaping of Middle-Earth
68) History of Middle-Earth - JRR Tolkien -Sauron Defeated
69) History of Middle-Earth - JRR Tolkien -The Treason of Isengard
70) History of Middle-Earth - JRR Tolkien -The War of the Ring
71) History of Middle-Earth - JRR Tolkien -The Peoples of Middle-Earth
72) History of Middle-Earth - JRR Tolkien -Morgoth's Ring
73) History of Middle-Earth - JRR Tolkien -The Return of the Shadow
74) History of Middle-Earth - JRR Tolkien -The War of the Jewels Vol 2
75) History of Middle-Earth - JRR Tolkien -The History of the Lord of the Rings
76) The Punic Wars - Nigel Bagnall
77) Journey to the Vanished City - Tudor Parfitt
78) The "Agricola" and the "Germania" [of] Tacitus - Cornelius Tacitus
79) The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire - Edward Gibbon
80) The Lancaster and York: the War of the Roses - Alison Weir
81) In Search of the Trojan War - Michael Wood

Date: 2012-05-20 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artkouros.livejournal.com
Maybe pick out a nice china pattern, something you can add to over the years and use for family holidays.

Date: 2012-05-20 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coth.livejournal.com
That's a good one. Most of us start out buying utilitarian china with price strongly in mind, and it's nice to have nice china.

Date: 2012-05-20 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com
The Boy and I are having exactly the same problem. I've resorted to saying vouchers or money towards honeymoon/new kitchen for everyone who is really stuck. My mother actually asked me if we wanted new towels - I was slightly boggled by this, I've lived away from home for 16 years for heavens sake, I do own towels!!

Date: 2012-05-21 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com
Lots of people keep the same old towels for ages until they are a bit grim and forget that they could buy new ones. I only upgraded my student towels this year (and it was lovely! And not expensive! People should buy more towels :-) )

Date: 2012-05-20 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moussaka-thief.livejournal.com
My husband and I stated quite clearly that we didn't want presents; weddings are already expensive to attend what with travel, hotel, drink and stuff.

A few people insisted so we told them to make us something or bring us something they didn't use any more. We got loads of jam, chutney, home made booze and lovely mismatching crockery and glasses that way. A couple of people slipped 20/30E into our wedding cards (we went on a road trip camping round europe for a month as our honeymoon) and someone bought us a le creuset casserole dish. Most people expressed relief at not having to buy anything (or stay in a hotel, the wedding was in a field). But then a lot of our friends are pretty broke, like us :)

Date: 2012-05-20 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octopoid-horror.livejournal.com
Why not just explicitly say that you don't want gifts, but if people do want to do something, they can give to a charity or cause that you like?

Date: 2012-05-20 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octopoid-horror.livejournal.com
Then you'll need to think of some gifts!

If you weren't inviting people who would be over-sensitive, you could say something along the lines of "You don't need to get us anything. However, if you DO want to get us anything then you can imagine the kind of things that we would like. If you can't imagine the kind of things that we would like, then you probably don't know us that well, so really - don't feel you need to buy us anything if that's the case."

Date: 2012-05-20 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octopoid-horror.livejournal.com
My take on wedding gift lists, stag/hen nights abroad and ceremonies/receptions in out-of-the-way places is generally that it's the Happy Couple TM revelling in being able to demand people spend money on them, after they've laid out the vast piles of cash themselves for the actual wedding.

Date: 2012-05-20 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meaningrequired.livejournal.com
I emailed some nice wording I found on the internet to Andy this morning...

"We really value your presence rather than your presents on our
special day. we appreciate the effort and expense of attending our wedding (most people are travelling and staying overnight) so please do not feel obliged to buy us a gift as well. If you would like to..."

I like the presence presents!

Date: 2012-05-20 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
Could just have 'the kitchen fund' or whatever? I don't think people will feel that they have to buy vouchers for somewhere to trust you to use the money for what they donated it toward... (Obviously in our case they had to since the last time I checked the Home Office don't do vouchers...)

Date: 2012-05-20 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ami-bender.livejournal.com
I just asked for honeymoon donations and used it to help make the honeymoon truly nice.

I also gave an option of some charities we liked, but only one person gave to charity.

Date: 2012-05-20 04:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kmusser
If you're doing a honeymoon letting guests contribute towards that is a great option. We're actually going to a wedding tomorrow and that's what they did, we bought them 1 hotel night :-)

Date: 2012-05-20 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helflaed.livejournal.com
If it is any comfort, I hated writing the dreaded wedding list too.

In the end I asked for "better" version of things I already had, such as egyptian cotton towels and sheets. As a result I will never need to buy a towel ever again and my children will probably inherit unused towels.

I also asked for a particular pattern of wineglass, and would have asked for a dinner service had I not recently inherited a very nice one. I also had lots of fun asking for things from Lakeland- I'm still using the non-stick baking liner 11 years on.

Date: 2012-05-20 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fub.livejournal.com
We did the customary thing: we asked for money. Our card said: "Gift suggestion: [icon of an envelope]". People got the idea, and we could buy a new bed with the money. We were sleeping in the bed I was born in, so that was high time, too.
I don't think I've ever given anything else than money for a wedding, either.

Date: 2012-05-20 07:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zz
you don't have a pony yet...

Date: 2012-05-20 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brixtonbrood.livejournal.com
We had a dinner service list at JL, since it was the only thing we didn't actually possess. Lots of people got us other lovely stuff off their own bat (including a penguin adopted at London Zoo which was excellent) but it was nice to have a fallback position for people (eg our workmates) who wanted to get us something but weren't confident about what,

Date: 2012-05-20 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joexnz.livejournal.com
Where are you getting your kitchen from
We strongly considered IKEA, they do gift vouchers!

Date: 2012-05-20 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] errolwi.livejournal.com
What my brother and now-s-i-l did a few years ago was have the guests pay for the economical wedding breakfast - the only gifts were from some invitees that couldn't attend (and obvious close family members). This matched the economic circumstances of the guests, and needs of the bride and groom. This approach obviously won't suit most people.

Date: 2012-05-21 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manintheboat.livejournal.com
We asked for hardware store gift cards because our house is falling apart. We got lots of them.

And don't forget to write thank you cards. My cousin didn't do them after her wedding and BOY am I pissed off.

Date: 2012-05-21 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairmen.livejournal.com
I'd cheerfully chip in for a larger TV for you guys, FYI. Larger TVs are good.

Date: 2012-05-21 12:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dougs.livejournal.com
After the wedding and the PhD, what you'll both really need is a holiday. And I'm sure someone will do vouchers for that.

Date: 2012-05-24 01:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] moniqueleigh
If you haven't already made a decision on this, you can do what a couple of my friends did for their wedding earlier this month. Like you & Julie, they've both been living on their own for quite some time & together for a year (? maybe two) so they didn't really need all the "first time household" stuff.

For their wishlist, they put on lots of different sorts of stuff: their favorite charities (RSPCA for those in the UK & for her family/friends in Tassie, a local US pet shelter for USian friends/family), the makings for soda (as they have one of those carbonation-adder-thingies that apparently work just as well, are much cheaper, & don't have HFCS), a few other low-ticket items along those lines, gift cards at their favorite shops, and then they went "nuts." By "nuts," I mean they added high-end luxury cars they wouldn't actually want but certainly wouldn't turn down, castles, islands back in Tassie, and the like.

If nothing else, it was good for a laugh as everyone who knows Rand knows that she'd prefer folks to be there rather than give gifts or that those who really want to give something give a donation to the critters instead. But for those who just can't stand merely showing up or donating to the animals, there were options from under $5 (or however much the soda bits cost) up to well over a million.

Date: 2012-05-27 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
fwiw we totally punted, though people were amazing anyway. The best ideas Ive heard were consumables, and someway of organising shares in a larger present (eg. person x paid £x for champagne on honeymoon' person £y paid for odd-numbered pixels in 12ft high tv, etc :))

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