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Date: 2012-03-14 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
Don't really think of it as a spoiler but will do so.

Anywhere here is a spoiler free version of my comment:

1. People brainstorming stories come up with all sorts of bad ideas. Since it didn't make it into the script clearly someone realized it was a bad idea.

2. Her comment that a "15 year old can not consent" is sort of disingenuous. While that's true under most circumstances in most U.S. states today, it wasn't true across the United States in the 1930s when the story takes place - and since both Indiana and Marian were world travelers they could have likely been in any number of nations (including most of Europe) where she was legally able to consent. For must of the early 20th Century 15 year old girls marrying guys in their 20s was not particularly uncommon.

3. Is she going to write a similar argument over A Song Of Ice And Fire? Danny is 14 and Drogo is in his late 20s, early 30s. And later there is a sympathetic character who is at least 15 to 20 years older than a very young girl he is expected to have sex with and this character is not looked at as being a bad person (or, well, any worse of a person then anyone else in the books.)
Edited Date: 2012-03-14 11:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-03-14 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
The thing that gave me the creeps was the idea that if she's sixteen, it isn't interesting. However, this is about the guys talking, not about the character.

Date: 2012-03-14 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
Guys say incredibly stupid shit all the time. Particularly at long brainstorming meetings. It doesn't mean they particularly endorse the idea or are behind it. It could just mean they were looking for a way to give Indy some "Bad Boy" cred. And it's clearly an idea that was tossed out. One of the points of creative brainstorming is to throw out whatever random idea pops in your head (and face it, shitty, random ideas pop into all of our heads from time to time.)

And, who knows, maybe it would have made it more interesting. I think that in Game Of Thrones Danny is much more interesting because she's only 14, but ends up becoming so bad ass so quickly and because of the way she takes over the sexual dynamic with Drogo who is far older than her. It would have been less interesting if Danny and Drogo were the same age - and if she wasn't so young.

So, there might of been a way to run with the idea of Marian being much younger than Indy when they first hooked up and her becoming a total bad ass later on.

Date: 2012-03-14 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
I'm inclined to think that the age of consent is set somewhat too high.

Nonetheless, if I think something is creepy, I might have legitimate reasons for doing so.

Part of Scarlett O'Hara's "bad girl cred" was that she was heartless with men who she attracted early in the book. If you find this a less-than-delightful trait in her character, I can live with it.

Date: 2012-03-14 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
Oh, I agree it can be considered creepy. No doubt about that. I just think that people say dump and potentially creepy things all the time when they are talking off the top of their head and to take them to task for it 25 years later is a bit silly.

Date: 2012-03-14 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
And I forgot to mention that I've only read the Game of Thrones books, but I was disappointed when I heard that Danerys was older in the tv show. Part of what made Westeros a different place was that people got all sorts of responsibility much younger than they do here.

Date: 2012-03-14 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
In one sense Fukishima was a disaster – if you are the insurer, lender or owner and have to stump up several billions in construction costs and several more billions in lost revenue.

The safety regime makes nukes quite expensive to build so if you break one you’re really in trouble.

All your eggs in one basket ahoy.

Date: 2012-03-14 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com
True, but I doubt there would be much left of any oil or gas fired power station. They also tend to be built near the coast as they use large amounts of water for cooling.

Date: 2012-03-14 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Nukes are more expensive to build than gas plants for a given capacity and the capacity tends to be concentrated.

About half of the life time cost of electricity from a gas plant is the fuel. If your plant is trashed you don't have to buy the fuel.

About 90-95% of the lifetime cost of electricity from a nuke is the construction cost.

When building a gas plant you might build one plant at 0.9 GW capacity in one location.

Nukes tend to be larger, at 1.2GW to 1.6GW per unit, often with two units on the same site.

Date: 2012-03-14 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com
Andrew,

A month or so ago you had a link to a criticism of Strunk & White's book on English usage.

I have googled but I can't find it!

Someone I know is interested in it...

If you can remember the link - or the tag you might have used - could you let me know?

Thanks!

Date: 2012-03-14 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undeadbydawn.livejournal.com
I could easily burn the rest of my week arguing on the Health Insurance thread.

instead I elected to study for tomorrow's maths test

:D

Date: 2012-03-14 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Remember the dead of Three Mile Island!

Date: 2012-03-14 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apostle-of-eris.livejournal.com
You're my favorite link aggregator, but this list hit me at 100%!

Date: 2012-03-15 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahs-muse.livejournal.com
There's so many awesome links in here! Much better than Reddit too!

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