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In 18 days my contract runs out, at which point I'd really like a new phone. I've been happy with my last one up to a point, but it's now slow and low in storage space* compared to any of the latest crop of phones.

So, my requirements are:
1) Must be able to install apps without going through an app store
2) Screen size of at least 3.7"
3) Oodles of storage
4) Not full of manufacturer/phone company crapware.**

All of which needs to be possible without voiding my warranty.*** I have no interest in hacking my phone about just to get the basics working.

At the moment, it looks like the combination of (1) and (4) is pointing me towards the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. Which frankly looks pretty darned awesome.

The downside of this is that my current phone company doesn't support it, so I'd either have to buy one outright or switch providers. Buying one outright seems doable, but the question then is who is the best provider for SIM-only. I use about 300 minutes and 150 texts per month, but I do intermittently go over the 500MB cap on my data, so 1GB would probably future-proof me nicely there.

So - my question is this, is there a better phone that conforms to my requirements, and who is currently the best phone company for this situation?



*This is my major gripe with it - I've never been able to install all of the apps I wanted to, because the HTC Desire only allocates 150MB for storage.
**I find it frustrating that there aren't any other phones out there that offer the pure Google OS without other stuff stuck on top.
***Admittedly, if the Galaxy S II was �200 pounds cheaper then I'd take the risk. But I'm not *#!*ing up �400-worth of phone if I can possibly avoid it.

Date: 2012-01-13 02:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cheekbones3
I've never really asked anyone this, but how do you get through so many texts and minutes? Is it a case of using them because it'd be a waste otherwise?

As a PAYG person, I struggle to get through 10 texts in a busy week, and make maybe one phonecall per month.

As an aside, I'm also puzzled (I mistyped "pizzled" there, much lol) by the dichotomy of the rush towards entertainment on mobiles while also upgrading one's huge telly/monitor at home.

Also, I can see a use for travel info and calendar-style stuff on a phone, but what else? No idea. Maybe handy for photographing odd things one comes across if a camera isn't handy. Is it mainly just a leisure tool?

I suppose all I'm really saying is that I don't understand how people are so married to their mobiles, I don't even carry mine a lot of the time. If I really need to do something, 99% of the time I can wait until I get home.

Do features beget usage, or does usage beget features? Or have phone companies been clever in their contracts that people feel they need to use their mobiles more?

I'll stop rambling now!

Date: 2012-01-13 11:44 pm (UTC)
cheekbones3: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cheekbones3
I suppose it boils down to me being more solitary and not having much in the way of commuting time. Plus I have a separate camera and mp3 player and pre-read my route before leaving, so if I get lost I'm screwed!

Maybe if I phoned my parents more often it would be useful to do that while I was out...

Date: 2012-01-14 09:24 pm (UTC)
cheekbones3: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cheekbones3
When you put it like that...!

Date: 2012-01-13 11:46 pm (UTC)
cheekbones3: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cheekbones3
Do you ever have problems when your battery goes or you forget the phone or whatever?

Date: 2012-01-13 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
If you can afford a Galaxy Nexus then it seems pretty clear you should get one!

Date: 2012-01-13 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com
I second that. I got one about a month ago and it is easily the best phone I've ever owned. It's a million miles better than my previous Android phone (Desire) and although it took about 15 minutes to get used to Ice Cream Sandwich, once I did it is superb.

Only slight fault I've found is that the casing feels a bit flimsy, but I bought a case for about £7 off Amazon and it now lives in my pocket.

Not sure what it will set you back on your contract but I got mine for free from 3 on a £25 a month contract (more minutes than I can possibly use and 1Gb/month data).

Date: 2012-01-13 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com
Negotiation - it took 3 calls, but once you request a PAC code you get put through to the "please don't leave us" department who have the authority to make deals to keep you as a customer. I've been with 3 for about 8 years so that helped too.

All the mobile networks have a similar department. If you persist long enough you should be able to get a better deal than they advertise online.

Date: 2012-01-14 07:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mathcathy
That's not true, actually. I work for VF and we don't have a separate "please don't leave us" department. Everyone thinks that we do, of course, but we don't.

You can get better deals than we offer online sometimes, particularly if you've built up some history with us, but you can do that exactly the same by asking to stay as by asking to leave - it's the same department with the same ability to offer deals.
Edited Date: 2012-01-14 07:54 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-13 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likeneontubing.livejournal.com
galaxy nexus will be my next upgrade

Date: 2012-01-13 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-phil.livejournal.com
Not all manufactureer stuff is crapware.
I have HTC Sense 3 + Icecream Sandwich on my Sensation XE and It looks and works pretty damn nicely.

You can add non-appstore apps, but don't have root access.
The original Nexus developer edition is the only phone I have heard of that comes with root access without hacking of some sort.

Date: 2012-01-13 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-phil.livejournal.com
Sorry, misnamed Android version because I had just read about the latest. I have gingerbread.

Date: 2012-01-13 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poisonduk.livejournal.com
Carphonewarehouse offer it on Orange. It doesn't have any external storage.

Date: 2012-01-13 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com
True - it has no SD card slot either, but it does have 16Gb of internal storage, which is certainly more than enough for me.

Date: 2012-01-13 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poisonduk.livejournal.com
I currently have to remove stuff to install new stuff on my 16gb phone. I was astonished it didn't have an SD card as I considered this as an upgrade last month.

Date: 2012-01-13 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andlosers.livejournal.com
If you're upgrading from the Desire, any amount of space is going to feel like all the space in the world ...

I've got the S2 and love it, although it does have Samsung's front end (which is much, much better than Sense). I expect the Nexus is even better.

Date: 2012-01-13 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poisonduk.livejournal.com
I thought the Desire accepted micro SD cards?

Date: 2012-01-13 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andlosers.livejournal.com
Don't even get me started.

Date: 2012-01-13 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] recycled-sales.livejournal.com
Point #1 seems to rule out any OS other than Android, whilst #4 eliminates anything by HTC/ Sony.

Really though, the Galaxy Nexus is the only one worthwhile with those requirements.

Network wise, I've managed to get 1Gb of data out of Orange by being polite on the phone and asking for it. YMMV though.

Date: 2012-01-13 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] recycled-sales.livejournal.com
It'd be nice to play with, but certainly the locked-down parts are an annoying aspect. Makes me wonder what Windows 8 on ARM will be like.

Date: 2012-01-13 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princealbert.livejournal.com
If you like the HTC tech, but not Sense, it should be pointed out that officially you can unlock the bootloaders on the HTCdev website for all models released after September 2011, (and quite a few before that), without invalidating your warranty.

Not all carriers provide the Samsung Galaxy Nexus bloatfree, although i think UK carriers are not at fault here. I stopped considering the Nexus for my upgrade because:
A) I want a physical keyboard.
B) I like the option of putting in larger micro-SD cards
C) If I cant get a physical keyboard then I'll probably go for a HTC with the Beats tech.

Date: 2012-01-13 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princealbert.livejournal.com
I take it you've looked at whats coming out within the next three weeks, like the Sony Xperia S [they bought out Ericsson]

Date: 2012-01-13 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheekbones3.livejournal.com
I foolishly commented at the other place :) Bit of a ramble.

Date: 2012-01-14 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davidcook.livejournal.com
*This is my major gripe with it - I've never been able to install all of the apps I wanted to, because the HTC Desire only allocates 150MB for storage.

Mine too ... unfortunately, I'm contracted until September, so I'm starting to contemplate CyanogenMod (or similar) to try to get a bit more space free ... App2SD only goes so far :)

Date: 2012-01-14 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martling.livejournal.com
If you want to have a bloatware-free system and be sure of getting updates, get something from this list.

Date: 2012-01-15 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
3.7"? Perhaps there's good reason to stay at/under 3.5". :)

Date: 2012-01-15 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
It's plausible, I suppose, but I agree with you, inasmuch as most of my Droid 2 usage is two-handed. :)

Date: 2012-01-15 01:36 pm (UTC)
nameandnature: Giles from Buffy (Default)
From: [personal profile] nameandnature
So - my question is this, is there a better phone that conforms to my requirements, and who is currently the best phone company for this situation?

I bought my Galaxy S2 outright and use PAYG: the Giffgaff £10/month goodybag (250 mins, unlimited texts, actually unlimited internet but no tethering). This works out cheaper for the amount of data I use, according to these guys (who don't seem to be affiliated with Giffgaff).
Edited Date: 2012-01-15 01:36 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-16 12:38 pm (UTC)
nameandnature: Giles from Buffy (Default)
From: [personal profile] nameandnature
I don't think they have a means to detect tethering other than just noting that someone is using serious amounts of bandwidth (by serious I mean I saw someone complaining on the forums that they were torrenting stuff over 3G and got told off, or something): I tend to use between 5 megs and 1 gig a month without any trouble.

The porting process was just getting the PAC code from Orange and then putting it into a form on the Giffgaff site, I think.

Date: 2012-01-15 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] broin.livejournal.com
I bought my Desire and SIM-only on Three because of how much I dislike salespeople and contracts. I get unlimited internet. I believe it's 3Gb or so fair usage which is a bunch. I've used 1.5Gb in a month where I streamed a lot of music for some bored weekends in work.

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