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Date: 2011-09-07 10:15 am (UTC)I think I'd feel the same way about books. I wouldn't have to worry about finding books in the right format, for the right price, without DRM. Instead I'd be paying for access, and not have to worry that I wasn't doing my part for the publishing industry.
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Date: 2011-09-07 10:18 am (UTC)[*] although county-wide inter-library loans have improved it from about 2% of the books I want to about 50%.
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Date: 2011-09-07 11:45 am (UTC)YES!
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Date: 2011-09-07 01:13 pm (UTC)Lx
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Date: 2011-09-07 05:07 pm (UTC)given that I find Edinburgh Library unusable now that they've clogged it with those *fuckerating AWFUL* self service booths.
I went there a couple of days ago, picked up a book, wandered over to the booths, gave up and took the book back. I probably won't be back for a while.
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Date: 2011-09-07 10:29 am (UTC)I can see the stock being badly damaged after a while though. Books do take a heck of a pounding, especially paperbacks. Imagine paying to borrow a dog eared copy of the most recent bestseller that's been through the post 30 times in a month.
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Date: 2011-09-07 10:32 am (UTC)And I'm happy to pay for books, in order to make authors happier.
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Date: 2011-09-07 10:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-07 10:34 am (UTC)And even so, there's a queue, because they can have all copies on loan, which means i'd have to wait behind other people.
Spotify doesn't work like that. I have whatever I want, instantly.
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Date: 2011-09-07 10:36 am (UTC)When it comes to non-fiction or reference books, that would be INCREDIBLY useful. However I like keeping those sorts of books when I need to look something up. I have a good memory for the location of information, and a less good memory for the information itself.
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Date: 2011-09-07 10:39 am (UTC)But for trying out books (like the one you just hated), you could do so more easily, and then stop, because you didn't pay money specifically for it :->
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From:If it were priced below my current level of ebook consumption then I would do it -- but why would publishers?
Actually, I know why publishers would. Humans have an irrational love for a flat-fee model. People will provably pay more for "unlimited" broadband than for broadband charged per hour or per Gb of use. So I guess publishers could use it as a lever to get more money out of people -- at which point I would not use it since I read research literature and am, hence, unusually aware of the weaknesses in human ability to get the best deal for a service.
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Date: 2011-09-07 11:00 am (UTC)I agree that the charging/payment structure would be interesting to hammer out.
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Date: 2011-09-07 11:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-07 11:38 am (UTC)This is very different from "I want to read X right now" and having access to it immediately.
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Date: 2011-09-07 11:18 am (UTC)I ticked £20 per month. That’s how much cable costs. It’s about two new paperbacks in paper or half an academic text.
I don’t often re-read books so the ownership is symbollic for me. I’m a big fan of the John Schumman lyric from Where Ya Gonna Run to Now “the books on your shelves are a measure of all that you’ve learned”. How would I demonstrate my status as a man of learning if visitors to my home are not confronted with a wall of books?
The catalogue would be very important in making the decision. What I’m missing from the library is a back catalogue of science fiction and lots of specialist non-fiction.
The author payment is tricky and the way it works for short songs is probably not going to be the way it works for long books. Not a problem that I need to solve tho’. I’d let the authors, rights owners and E-library suppliers sort it out for themselves on whatever terms make sense to them.
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Date: 2011-09-07 11:36 am (UTC)(x) We already have it, and it's called a public library.
I would be willing to pay up to...
(x) Nothing. We already have it, and it's called a public library.
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Date: 2011-09-07 11:38 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-09-07 11:51 am (UTC)Books I would like to read once and then not read again. (There are millions of these.)
Books I would like to have on my bookshelf forever and ever amen. (There are about 180 of these. They aren't always the same 180, as I get older.)
I don't read near as many of the first kind of books as I would like, a bit because I don't want to pay for them, but mostly because I don't want to keep accumulating books I have no intention of reading again and then have to figure out how to get rid of them (this keeps happening anyway, but, you know, I'd like to have it happen less). The kind of service you suggest would be ideal.
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Date: 2011-09-07 12:40 pm (UTC)I agree, though. I'm happy to read many books once and let them go; I have no particular interest in having such books on my shelves. And there are other books I read and want to have a copy of, perhaps to reread, but primarily to be able to let others like our bibliophibian daughter read :)
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Date: 2011-09-07 12:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-07 01:06 pm (UTC)And, throw in unlimited fiction reading, and I'm happy. I'd still buy a ton of books, though. I'm still buying paper books as well as reading on a kindle.
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Date: 2011-09-07 05:13 pm (UTC)If I'd bought all the games I've got on Steam at full price (which I certainly didn't do!) then that averages to £27 a month on computer games.
I'd happily pay around £50 a month to be able to play any games I wanted, when I wanted, for as long as I wanted.
Spotify is stupidly cheap, but while I would be happier paying more, I suspect many might not be.
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Date: 2011-09-07 08:29 pm (UTC)(and that was a no)
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Date: 2011-09-07 08:54 pm (UTC)I no-longer want a library. That might not sound weird (who wants a library?!), but as a kid & teen, I always wanted a library!
Key reason I'd pay for a service is new books. Libraries are rubbish for new books in general. That said, a fiver every week or few days for a new download is not a problem - some of my colleagues spend that on Starbucks.
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Date: 2011-09-08 01:00 am (UTC)Nope, still probably not. I'm not reading enough fiction/light nonfiction at the moment to make a monthly fee worthwhile, and the academic stuff is much better in paper form since I only have limited screen space but can have nigh-unlimited physical books spread all over my apartment. And that's not getting into the physical comfort of sprawling with a book versus trying to find a comfortable reading position with my netbook.
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Date: 2011-09-08 07:02 am (UTC)Julie's not really reading much at the moment, because the PhD has her reading enough papers right now that she has no brain space for reading for fun.