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Date: 2011-11-25 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com
Yes this. By their nature these things miss out the personal experience bit. I know two women who opted to give birth at home for their first child. Neither of them are stupid, they both did their research and decided the added comfort and reduced medicalisation outweighed the extra risk. They were both lucky enough to have no complications and found birth a more positive experience than several other women I know, who had a horrible time in hospital. Including one who still had to wait for an ambulance and be transferred because the hospital she was in couldn't perform the necessary intervention.

By which I mean that if we rely on people's gut feelings and personal experience, we get a story based entirely on who is in our sample.

Date: 2011-11-25 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dalglir.livejournal.com
It turns out that I am an opinionated old fart, lucky enough to have friends like Andy who are patient enough to keep arguing their corner. The result was that I went away, read some more around the topic and am now more sympathetic to other point of view.

Hurray!

Date: 2011-11-25 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com
I can entirely sympathise with your position given your experience, it's very hard to be objective about medical statistics when it's you or your family whose lives are saved (I made a similar point here about mammograms).

Date: 2011-11-25 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com
As well as the chances of catching MRSA etc, hospital births tend to be 60 % longer, which can increase the chances of complications. In a hospital, a woman is more likely to give birth on her back (not helped by a lot of medical professionals who think you need to be lying down if you have monitors attached to you) which is apparently much worse than squatting.

(This info is via the Boy who is training to be a nurse; I'd look up some articles to reference but a) I should be working or turning the laptop off and b) no-one without a journal subscription is likely to be able to read them)

I'm unclear whether the data on the length of hospital births is comparing like-for-like births, or whether it is affected by higher risk births being almost entirely hospital based, unfortunately.

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