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From: [identity profile] meaningrequired.livejournal.com
The problem I have with Phrenology and that other ology which relates face to personality/criminology is that they were interesting ideas many years ago, but they didn't have the science then to properly investigate and test them. So, some guy came up with what he thought was right and obviously it was a load of rubbish so now we reject these theories as humor and rubbish.

However, now we know more about the brain, there might be something in it, but it's going to take a lot to overcome to ridicule and disbelief. I know there is quite a lot of research emerging currently that our face can actually relate a lot of information about our hormones and thus our personality. It is limited as psychology is so very young, but it is developing, as you can see with the Guardian's report.
From: [identity profile] meaningrequired.livejournal.com
I love shopping in Borderlands, much more than you do. I think I'm more sensitive to the intermittent reward of finding something awesome 1/50 times I check. It's probably also learned, from a lifetime of games.

I hate real life shopping, although it is a lot easier now most places have websites which allow me to pick what I want to try on, or examine when I visit in RL. Amazon takes care of everything else.

Date: 2011-11-08 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
"Now _this_ is an email disclaimer"

ROFL.

"the offered explanation is, of course, pants."

Yeah, there's a lot of nonsese. Although (with a depressing low bar) it's still better than I might have expected: the journalist rejects the apprarently spurious speculation, and the subheading, while a bit sensationalist, actually refers to what facts there are rather than someone else's innaccurate gloss on them.

The actual facts seem to be:

* An unnamed and uncited "online discount [clothes?] shopping website" did a survey, discovering what certain percentages of women said about their shopping pattenrs
* The proportions are obviously meaningless since there's no suggestion the sample was representative (and it probably wasn't).
* However, the suggestion that some proportion of people feel like this is fairly plausible.
* There is an implied assumption that men don't clothes shop like that. That seems likely true, but is also completely unstated, let alone cited.
* There is a quote which sounds like completely spurious speculation. It's impossible to tell if the psychologist was talking nonsense, was browbeaten into giving a quoteable quote for the newspaper, or quoted completely out of context just to manufacture an article and she originally said something well-researched and/or sensible and/or unrelated.
* If the suggested effect (that women get a specific thrill from shopping) is true, there's no data about the source of the effect: it could be that women more often like shopping (either genetically or culturally), or that the thrill is unisexual, but more women are culturally impelled to express it in clothes shopping, or that everyone reacts about the same way, but women are more often culturally impelled to claim or admit it in the sort of language used, or that the whole thing is spurious, etc, etc,

Date: 2011-11-08 01:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com
Before you applaud the government for overturning the young foreign spouses entry ban, read this.

Date: 2011-11-08 01:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] grapefruitzzz.livejournal.com
NOOOO! NOW WE'RE AT RISK OF AN INVASION BY UNDERGROUND YORKSHIRE TROLLS! THOSE CAVES WERE THERE FOR A REASON! DOOOOOM!

Date: 2011-11-08 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lpetrazickis.livejournal.com
Men ... would definitely prefer no hugs ... but a new Lamborghini.

Counterpoint: I wouldn't. I'll take the hugs, you take the Lamborghini.

Date: 2011-11-08 03:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zz
i'd like both please.

Date: 2011-11-08 05:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com
A Lamborghini will get you hugs[*].

Hugs alone will not get you a Lamborghini.


[*] Admittedly the hugs might be mercenary rather than sincere in intent ...

Date: 2011-11-08 06:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zz
given i'm devoid of hugs, insincere ones would be a start.

although this wouldn't work in edinburgh anyway, as one speed bump or pothole and you'd be stuck.

Date: 2011-11-09 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
The trick with speed bumps and a car with a low front spoiler is to take them diagonally.

Date: 2011-11-08 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ritaxis.livejournal.com
About the opt-out donor news:

Observing that Czech Republic has an opt-out system in place, my son wrote a bit about it here. (http://waitinginline.insanejournal.com/2010/04/18/)

I had to ask about tissue donation when my husband died, but the coroner was prepared to deal with the request and put me in contact with the Muscoloskeletal Tissue Foundation. That actually the best thing about that first year after he died. Despite the soft spirituality tacked onto some of the materials, the rest of their communications were really quite comforting even to an atheist like me (I wanted somebody somewhere to have something nice).

So I'm just saying, I like the idea of opt-out, and opt-out would have been easier for me because it would have just happened, but I hope that the little sentimental touches for the family of the dead would continue.

Date: 2011-11-08 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octopoid-horror.livejournal.com
I always assumed that women enjoyed shopping in the same way that As Every Mum Knows, girls like pink. In other words, it was just trained stereotypical behaviour.

Date: 2011-11-08 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilysea.livejournal.com
I'm a woman and I hate hate hate clothes shopping.

Possibly because it's so hard to find something that

a) fits; AND
b) is in a fabric that doesn't make my skin itch like crazy; AND
c) is in a colour that I like; AND
d) is in a style that I like.

Plus, shop assistants are always so awkward about the fact that I'm a Australian size 18 or size 20 (equivalent to a UK size 16 to 18.)

"Oh, we only go to a size 14..."

I buy most of my clothes from Etsy (www.etsy.com) instead, and have them made-to-measure.

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