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Date: 2011-08-30 11:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zz
Let the EDL racists march - By denying one group its right to public protest, the government moves closer to banning us all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came%E2%80%A6

Date: 2011-08-30 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
You've provided me with the perfect excuse to use this userpic!

Date: 2011-08-30 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com
The problem is the police and the government know fine that if the march goes ahead there will be violence, especially because of the proposed route. Perhaps an alternative route would be a more sensible compromise, but I suspect even then they know there will be violence.

Date: 2011-08-30 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eatsoylentgreen.livejournal.com
Here in the US there's banks and there's credit unions, which are essentially nonprofit banks. The credit unions don't charge as many fees.

I take it as a sign of mental illness if someone is not banking at a credit union.

Date: 2011-08-30 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supergee.livejournal.com
I always wonder about the overlap between the enema freaks and the natural health people who cleanse themselves with high colonics.
Edited Date: 2011-08-30 04:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-08-30 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com
Watching Caractacus has given me a pretty good demonstration of the animal thing. She has been very excited about animals for a long time. Currently, the world divides into:

- parents
- other grown-ups I know well
- animals
- toys
- stuff I can maybe get away with treating like a toy
- food
- other grown-ups
- whatever

In rough order of interest, though this changes according to circumstance.

Date: 2011-08-30 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com
> The "overlearning the game" problem - when people use the rules of society against it.
Any system can be gamed. Any set of rules has loopholes. I'm not sure what can be done about this (except for constant oversight and nerfing).

I'm surprised nobody sees the obvious answer: it's called sportsmanship, right?

Date: 2011-08-30 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ipslore.livejournal.com
'Sportsmanship' is just another kind of rule.

Date: 2011-08-30 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holyoutlaw.livejournal.com
One of the commenters (Fuzzy) mentioned "gentleman's rules" as used in computer games.

But as Andrew says, doesn't scale well.

Date: 2011-08-30 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com
I said obvious, not easy ;)

And I'd rather live in a society where we have to carefully debate fair play than one where I keep having to relearn the rules because idiots require us to change them.

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