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Date: 2011-07-19 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerrypolka.livejournal.com
Yeah, all of which is cool, but presented as a contextless "interesting link" I don't think it gives that impression at all!

Date: 2011-07-19 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
My general feeling is that a woman who is visiting an adultery fetish site is probably going to have an affair at some point, but that there is the risk of getting so caught up in the affair that leaving her husband might temporarily seem like a good idea at the time but be a disaster long term (in the same way that a 40 year old dude might in the heat of the moment think about leaving his wife for his 22 year old mistress only to seriously regret it later.)

I'll agree that rereading it some of the reasons are socially based, but that doesn't make them any less real. A 40 year old woman leaving her husband for her 20 year old personal trainer is going to be socially judged, just as a guy leaving his wife for his 20 year old personal assistant is going to be judged socially.

And if we are going to say "hey, if you can get away with a discreet fling with a hot you dude go for it" - we also sort of have a responsibility to point out what can happen if it's taken beyond the level of fling into something more.

Date: 2011-07-19 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerrypolka.livejournal.com
I didn't know I was visiting an adultery fetish site until I clicked on the link [livejournal.com profile] andrewducker gave with no other information than the title "30 Reasons Not To Leave Your Husband" and the tags "relationships, women". It wasn't tagged "kink" or "fetish", it was tagged "relationships", and I read it as such. I don't know whether Andrew thinks most of the people reading him have an adultery fetish, or whether it's supposed to be taken as broader advice.

Especially coming two links above "Why do people stay in abusive relationships?", which (I maintain) is a question it answers very well! Social shaming is effective at keeping people in relationships they are thinking twice about; that cuts both ways.

Date: 2011-07-19 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
Very true and very interesting. I honestly hadn't considered the social shaming part of it until you mentioned it.

I think he put it up as a contrast to the other story, which is about why female victims stay with abusive partners. My piece is reasons women who are not victims might stay with partners they are not 100 percent satisfied by.

It's an interesting contrast.

Date: 2011-07-19 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holyoutlaw.livejournal.com
I think the fact the site was called "Our Cheating Ways" and advertised AshleyMadison.com were clues.

Date: 2011-07-19 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com
Yeah, that link should maybe have been flagged up as having a slight bias of crack.

> You’ll end up cheating on your lover. Most women are not hard wired for monogamy.

Really? Citation needed.

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