Date: 2011-06-28 10:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matgb
firmly advance the political reform and build socialist democracy under the rule of law

I give you the People's Democratic Republic of China. About as democratic as the German Democratic Republics. Or indeed the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, with one meaning of 'soviet' initially being a form of assembly democracy.

Date: 2011-06-28 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
I love that one of the editor's notes made it into the travel story.

Date: 2011-06-28 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
"The OFT's announcement comes in response to a super-complaint by the consumers' association Which?."

The "Which?" was put there by an editor to tell the reporter to name the association before posting the story online.

Date: 2011-06-28 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerrypolka.livejournal.com
Which? is the name of the consumers' association, I'm afraid.

Date: 2011-06-28 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khoth.livejournal.com
More likely, it's referring to the consumers' association with the name of "Which?"

Date: 2011-06-28 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
Oh.

My bad. If you don't know that such an organization exists it looks just like an editor's note. (Having been a journalist and having had editors insert "Which?" many, many times on story drafts that was my reading of it.)

Date: 2011-06-28 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com
Gotcha.

Thanks!

Date: 2011-06-28 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
Unbiased maybe, but often quite uninformed. Whenever I've seen reviews of products where I do know a bit, I often find their analysis simplistic and their results consequently less than optimal.

Date: 2011-06-28 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brixtonbrood.livejournal.com
My parents have subscribed for decades so I read every copy when I visit. They're good for things like dishwasher powder that I can't be arsed to actually research, and long-term reliability surveys for stuff like fridges and toasters that noone on the internet talks about because it's so dull, but they aren't much cop for serious technology.

Date: 2011-06-28 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I wonder what you would call a democractic system with all the features of a democracy but without the will of the people bit.

Date: 2011-06-28 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Aye – a dictatorship but with the rule of law, due process, habeas corpus, civil liberties, freedom of speech, respect for property and personal rights just with no right to have anyone listen to your opinion on what the law or policy should be.

Date: 2011-07-05 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I’ve forgotten my Aristotle who’s Politics spoke of changes from forms of government.

I think he’d call the situation I’m thinking of as a Lawful Kingship or Monarchy.

After all, if you have respect for the law and freedom of speech it's tricky to deal with a populace loudly shouting for the right to vote :->

Unless you’re prepared to enforce the constitutionally valid anti-democracy laws and start locking people up until they learn the error of their ways.

For their own good you understand.

Nothing but their best interests at heart.

Date: 2011-07-05 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com

I did.

I was thinking in my head, but not writing with my fingers, that the protesters were allowed to stand in front of the governor’s house all day chanting and waving placards but that they weren’t allowed to physically threaten the status quo through riots, with holding of labour or assassinations.

The population can bitch all they want but they can't do anything.

I think benevolent dictatorship or, as Aristotle would term it, Royalty is the right answer.

Obvously inherently unstable in practise whatever the theory as it becomes difficult to separate the common good from partial good when your are the one doing the deciding.

Date: 2011-07-05 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Yes, very much Ankh-Morpork.

Date: 2011-06-28 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com
Chinese Democracy - Coming Soon? - a headline we have been reading in NME for the past 15 years. When it finally arrived the result was rather disappointing.

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