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Date: 2010-04-13 02:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-04-13 02:43 pm (UTC)I was discussing mandated common keyboards with a friend and Esperanto came up.
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Date: 2010-04-13 08:58 pm (UTC)From
I don't depend on QI for my information. Not that I've seen an episode in a couple of years.
You may be able to track down 6/7 people who can speak a few phrases - how many of them are actually fluent?
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Date: 2010-04-13 03:37 pm (UTC)Oh, hang on, wrong persona.
I mean, yes, why not? It would be an interesting survey.
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Date: 2010-04-13 11:14 pm (UTC)Disclaimer: might be garbled due to excessive recent use of 日本語 getting in the way of everything.
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Date: 2010-04-13 03:23 pm (UTC)(I assume if -- as unlikely as it seems -- you could vote for both, you should not vote, or vote for whichever was useful more often.)
Of course, there might be times when it might be useful to know EITHER, eg. to keep notes which are not trivially decodable by someone else :)
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Date: 2010-04-13 03:28 pm (UTC)And I've never encountered Esperanto in the wild, while I have watched several TV shows and movies which include Klingon.
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Date: 2010-04-13 03:34 pm (UTC):) I have too, but I assumed (?) all of them were designed to have their optimum artistic effect when you find out what the Klingon means when and only when there are subtitles, and have no reason to doubt that, which means that even though I might have understood more, I wouldn't have said it was useful.
Whereas I have -- very very very rarely -- heard something in Esperanto without translation.
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Date: 2010-04-13 03:52 pm (UTC)Also, have you read any of Harry Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat books?
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Date: 2010-04-13 03:55 pm (UTC)I hadn't realised the background speech in Gattaca was Esperanto - and I have read the SSR books, and had completely forgotten about the Esperanto in that!
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Date: 2010-04-13 10:00 pm (UTC)a more serious poll
Date: 2010-04-14 09:06 am (UTC)results at http://multivote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/3142
3072 voted on " Which language should be the world's official common language? "
Results today (2010-04-14)
324 English
1964 Esperanto
247 "newly developed language"
Klingon should be mentioned here a few times
(adding your 43 votes here won't change much)
Re: a more serious poll
Date: 2010-04-14 09:32 am (UTC)Klingon should be mentioned under
"Other existing constructed language" (100 voters)
Re: a more serious poll
Date: 2010-04-14 11:50 am (UTC)Well, maybe binary :->
Re: a more serious poll
Date: 2010-04-14 10:04 pm (UTC)"[...]happen slowly [...]"
You are right... much too slowly.
"[...] sprout dialects"
This is assuming that a language like Esperanto will evolve like natural languages did: thanks to illiterates. Analyze how Esperanto evolved during the last century, and you will notice it does follow another pattern.
A common language (as Esperanto) would be a blessing for humanity (well...assuming the values Esperantists are cherishing are taken with the language.)
Re: a more serious poll
Date: 2010-04-14 10:06 pm (UTC)Something like Globish as a second language seems rather more likely.
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Date: 2010-04-15 07:04 am (UTC)As silly as switching to the Euro, or more?
"Something like Globish"
or like Basic English, or Kitchen French or Vulgar Latin?
Why would a complete language not suit you as worldwide second language?
What is missing is the political will.
However, something like Mandarin Chinese is even more likely. The disadvantage is that you must start learning now, or your grand children will be left behind.
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Date: 2010-04-15 07:19 am (UTC)A language, on the other hand, is something that people would continue using, and you couldn't simple mandate that everyone switch to a different language, they'd simply continue with the old one. Any government that tried to tell people what language to speak would find itself out of power very quickly.
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Date: 2010-04-14 02:34 pm (UTC)Auskultu foje podkaston en Esperanto che Radio Polonia:
http://www.polskieradio.pl/eo/
au vizitu chiu-jaran kongreson:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Congress_of_Esperanto
The point is 'universal bilingualism' - YOUR ethnic language for you + non-ethnic Esperanto for all, NOT 'one language for the world' as is presently happening with World English!
Tá mé ag foghlaim na Gaeilge anois - tá sí teanga an-dúshlánach. There's some Irish for you too!